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Rev.E.

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We need to get active troops. We are running out of time to prepare for the possibility of a SHTF scenario. COMMS are extremely important to our success as a whole. It is even more critical that our Leadership be in control of all situations. Our current situation in the country is becoming violent. It is a great time to learn about our enemies. I can only suggest that we not listen to propaganda about what we as the Militia should be doing. We all have passion towards the protection and defense of our great country, but we can not dig our own graves because someone posted to the internet. MyMilitia was created to help keep us all on the same page. Let us not lose our way because of their agenda. 

 

They want us to step up and take the first move of retaliation. We as a whole need to be more vigilant than their desire to attempt to destroy our country. The current times shall pass. This is not the first time and it is not the last. You want to step up and protect your communities, by all means do it, but check with your leaders first. Keep in mind, you are States Militias. Once you cross state lines with loaded weapons, you become felons. The only person who can have you cross state lines is our Commander and Chief President Donald Trump. Everyone needs to get active in the Area Code Militias. Please be safe and learn everything you can about the enemy at hand, Both ANTIFA but more importantly the Federal Government. God Be With Us! III%

 

1st SGT 19th Tennessee Infantry, 1st Div. A Co.



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So of these guys are ready to travel 100's of mile to shoot someone over a statue. They need to stand down and watch. That is the key to knowing your enemy and how you will respond when the time comes. We can not afford to become unraveled over a hunk of metal. They are all crying the blues because ANTIFA took over a 6 block area. Let those in that state be the ones to step up. If they don't we then we know who the keyboard warriors are. We can not afford to have our reputation smeared any more than it currently is. I wish the others would that and stop following Qanon. The Propaganda is working well with some. I could go one for hours but they will not listen to reason. Passion can be our worst enemy, Brother. HOOAH

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I have some familiarity with the traditional Left, the Leninists of various sorts. But I know little about Anti-Fa, or any similar groups, who have arisen in the last 30 years.

But ... we have seen some very intelligent, generally left-wing,technically-savvy people get together, and attack their political enemies via various means.  [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacktivism]

Read the article!  And note this man's name: Hector Xavier Monsegur  .... because there will be one in your unit, if you do anything seriously illegal and get caught. There is always a Hector Xavier Monsegur.

 

As the militia movement grows, it will attract the attention of these people. One avenue of attack against us will be technical: DDOS attacks and the like. But another attack that will be second nature to these people will be to invent a false identity, join sites like this one, and start urging people to undertake premature, violent, illegal actions that will result in the hammer of the legal system being brought down on the people who have been foolish enough to be provoked.

 

With actual physical agents, who join a group 'on the ground', it is sometimes possible to unmask them because they are not emotionally in tune with the group's goals, and this shows in their day to day interaction with genuine members. They may also be a bit lazy and not do their homework with respect to reading up on the beliefs of the rest of the group. (Imagine yourself having to join a communist organization, pretending to be a communist. You may believe -- many on the Right evidently do -- that communists sit around cackling and rubbing their hands together while they imagine out load how glorious it will be to see piles of corpses and burning cities. You'll have a shock coming as an infiltrator if that's what you think.)

 

But on the web ... it's easy to pretend to be almost anything you want. No one can see your face, you have time to look up answers to questions, you can study previous posts by genuine members and copy their style.  Easy.

 

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"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog."

 

But what would such an infiltrator want to do?  They may be there just to listen. I suspect the government informers have that assignment, at the moment. They're looking for future Timothy McVeighs.

Or they may be on assignment to gather scary quotes for future prosecution, or for articles in leftist magazines.  This has already happened.   [ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/undercover-border-militia-immigration-bauer/ ] 

But probably most of the people who have put on a mask and joined us online, are there as agents provocateurs.      [These people are extremely common in political movements: read this Wiki article on them. Even  the footnotes are informative. Every militia unit should have at least one member who specializes in this subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur ]

 

Now what would an online provocateur want to incite us to do right now, and how would he do it?  (And, given that 90% of us are male, what techniques would a real or assumed female use, to provoke us into doing something stupid?)

I leave this as an exercise for readers . Post your answers here.

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These people are the least of my worries. We are  not a violent group and never will be. I removed anew guy because I did not care for his attitude. I am a retired Police Officer and I have been trained to recognize individuals that could be a possible threat. What does concern me are the jokers we have in here that truly believe special powers exist within themselves and those that preach Propaganda and will not listen to reason. I also worked in the computer field for 17 years. I can pull info from a web site or page in an instant, which can be useful. I found three ANTIFA leaders and posted their names and FB pages to general chat area on Discord.

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On 6/13/2020 at 5:22 AM, Rev.E. said:

These people are the least of my worries. We are  not a violent group and never will be. I removed anew guy because I did not care for his attitude. I am a retired Police Officer and I have been trained to recognize individuals that could be a possible threat. What does concern me are the jokers we have in here that truly believe special powers exist within themselves and those that preach Propaganda and will not listen to reason. I also worked in the computer field for 17 years. I can pull info from a web site or page in an instant, which can be useful. I found three ANTIFA leaders and posted their names and FB pages to general chat area on Discord.

Thank you, thank you a million times.

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Pardon my ignorance, but is having a loaded weapon outside your State of residence any different legally for a militia member than it is for a citizen who is not a militia member?

 

(Crossing the State line with it loaded, as it's worded in the OP, is less of a concern as it's easy enough to unload it then reload elsewhere. The wording just surprises me and I've never thought about this. Assume a long gun, not concealed carry)

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On 6/12/2020 at 3:41 PM, Doug1943 said:

I have some familiarity with the traditional Left, the Leninists of various sorts. But I know little about Anti-Fa, or any similar groups, who have arisen in the last 30 years.

 

I have read about and watched antifa for at least several years now. They arose before WWII, not in the last 30 years. Whether in the US they still have any ideological ties to that historical footing or not is purely academic at this point. $1.7MM from George Soros last year has been traced. I have to expect AG Barr will not do anything with that info. Payment to BLM has been filmed. While we don't know how much, when you're starting with someone there to protest, $20 will go a long way especially if you're not asking them to do very much. Whether the captured phrase "go flip some tables" was figurative or literal, I think that's moot. $1.7MM will go a long way at that rate. And when it runs out, Soros has more and can make more than that in minutes. That he's in cahoots with Bill Gates is bad news for mankind.

 

It's humorous to watch antifa's "training" videos. I don't find it humorous at all to watch them commit crime with impunity whether LEOs are there watching or not.  Without local and State governments cooperating with them, most of what they've done couldn't have happened. I don't know of the Federal government actually permitting them to commit crime, yet. I think State and local governments have led the charge of tyranny since March. 

 

The great irony here is the main source of fascism in the US is antifa. 

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Pardon my ignorance, but is having a loaded weapon outside your State of residence any different legally for a militia member than it is for a citizen who is not a militia member?

 

(Crossing the State line with it loaded, as it's worded in the OP, is less of a concern as it's easy enough to unload it then reload elsewhere. The wording just surprises me and I've never thought about this. Assume a long gun, not concealed carry)

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I'm with him... How does crossing state lines for meet and greet, as well as ftxs constitute a no no?

 

Rev , can you enlighten me sir with a link? Appreciate you bringing this to my attention. Knew about traveling with firearms in general but did not realize doing so for militia duties was an issue.

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The Federal Government, in which Donald J Trump presides over, is NOT our enemy. There are bad actors everywhere, and bad actors breed bad public policy. Municipality, county, state.....but they are not our enemies.

 

Lose November and that likely changes. Forever.

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I've been quiet for a few days.. a lot on my plate as we prep to move out of a shitty blue state (WA), but....

 

The notion that one's right to resist an evil dictatorship stops at a state boundary?  The notion that a corrupt federal government will some day call on you people to resist - with force - a corrupt government?  The notion that you have to wait for King George III's permission to rebel against his tyranny?  The groups formed on this website are impotent by definition.  I see I was correct in not throwing my hat in with you lot... when SHTF, you'll find me in a log or stone cabin with my wife, biding our time until the absolute hell is over.  I'm not sure I can trust anyone here, especially when your loyalties lie with the corrupt governments you claim to serve.

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The country and the Constitution are arbitrary creations with no significance other than what people give them.  The underlying foundation of both is the more valuable knowledge.

 

I'd recommend reading some Thomas Paine, some Machiavelli, Thomas Hobbs, John Locke... don't rest your laurels on the conclusions the Founding Fathers established... seek to understand what they understood in terms of rights, privileges, freedoms, and entitlements.

 

Why does the Constitution hold such high regard with any who call themselves "patriot"?  I'm fairly confident saying that an anorexic minority of you people understand the foundation upon which the constitution (little "c") was built.

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9 hours ago, coffeebear said:

The country and the Constitution are arbitrary creations with no significance other than what people give them.  The underlying foundation of both is the more valuable knowledge.

 

I'd recommend reading some Thomas Paine, some Machiavelli, Thomas Hobbs, John Locke... don't rest your laurels on the conclusions the Founding Fathers established... seek to understand what they understood in terms of rights, privileges, freedoms, and entitlements.

 

Why does the Constitution hold such high regard with any who call themselves "patriot"?  I'm fairly confident saying that an anorexic minority of you people understand the foundation upon which the constitution (little "c") was built.

I agree with you. The Constitution by itself is a piece of paper with writing on it. I could do it myself, though maybe not with such ornate writing. My loyalty is to what it represents, the ideals behind it, the foundation as you called it. In my former post, I was basically just saying my loyalty does not belong to the government, which you claimed we all supported. Obviously, you were wrong about that. If you are so confident that only a few people understand the foundation the Constitution was built on, why don't you try to enlighten everyone else? Do you care that so many are ignorant when they need to know? Maybe you don't. You previously stated that when the when the really bad things start happening, you are going to hide away somewhere with your wife like a coward. How much do you really care? I'd like to know.

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31 minutes ago, O sleeper said:

I agree with you. The Constitution by itself is a piece of paper with writing on it... my loyalty does not belong to the government, which you claimed we all supported.

 

Generalization.  I don't intend to make a list of every person on this site and rate them on how beholden they are to their particular state government and how much fealty they have towards the federal government.

 

33 minutes ago, O sleeper said:

If you are so confident that only a few people understand the foundation the Constitution was built on, why don't you try to enlighten everyone else?

 

See the recommended authors that you included when you quoted me.

 

35 minutes ago, O sleeper said:

... when the really bad things start happening, you are going to hide away somewhere with your wife like a coward. How much do you really care? I'd like to know.

 

I also stated that I don't feel I could rely on most people here - so what would you have me do instead?  Roll in solo?  I'm not Rambo, and this isn't a movie.  The usual hierarchy is God, family, country, yes?  Again, I'm unable to restore the country by myself, and it would be foolish to try.  My next duties are to my family, which... being dead makes it difficult to meet those responsibilities. 

 

As for how much I really care, I doubt there's anything I could say that would have much meaning to you, so... believe what you want.

 

For what it's worth, most people here seem to be reactionary... when the government becomes tyrannical, then they'll stand up to fight it.  Spoiler Alert - it's already tyrannical.  Rioters are given police and government protection, and people defending themselves against said rioters are being thrown in jail.  Riots with throngs of people in close proximity are fine - going to church in violation of various executive orders gets you thrown in jail.  Rioters can tear down your private property, and if you stand in your own doorway with a firearm as a show of force to deter further violence against your family or your property (sounds like what the police are doing at these riots... sounds like what the rioters are doing at these riots... sounds like what the CHAZ/CHOP kids were doing in their LARP game)... that's right... you face prosecution and potential jail.

 

So... go ahead - be reactionary.  Just don't be surprised when you finally realize that you've already lost.

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Again, I pretty much agree with what you said. I believe the government is tyrannical and should have been torn down and restored a long time ago. But like you I can't do it by myself. And most aren't ready to do anything now, even though they should be. This is why we try to raise awareness of what is going on. I will not just sit back and let the country go because no one else is doing anything. One man can do a lot. It takes a lot of effort and sacrifice, but would it be better to do nothing? To be honest, I don't want to do anything. I would want to be like you, and just hide away till it's all over. But then what kind of man would I be? I believe family is more important than country too. My fight is ultimately not for the country, or the Constitution, or the foundation it's built on. My fight is for my family, because I want the best for them. I don't want them to live in a country of tyranny and persecution. I could move somewhere else, but what other country is there that is even close to what America is? The best chance for freedom is here in America, and I want that for my family, and that is why I fight.

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Coffeebear, you are full of language which I've heard all of my life ... from the Left.  Sitting in a restaurant with several friends, talking politics and sports, and then somebody with a red face full of anger calls us "reactionaries".  Usually, before I am able to speak up, one of my friends calls the red-faced man a "commie", and then there's a standoff.

 

If you don't wish to fight for freedom, for country, and the Founding Principles of the nation which are enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. that's your right ... and guess where that right comes from?  When those documents become an historical oddity, where will your "rights" come from, eh?  I will answer that question for you.  They will come from whatever Leftist government is in power, at the time.  If they decide you should die for whatever manner of beliefs you espouse, you will be put up in front of a wall and shot.

 

When the Left has destroyed the Declaration and the Constitution, and you see friends and relatives dying about you (after being spirited away in the night, never to return), you will start to reconsider your past beliefs.  By then, it will be too late.

 

Good luck with that ...

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3 hours ago, Headhunter said:

Coffeebear, you are full of language which I've heard all of my life ... from the Left. 

 

Son, if you think I've ever voted for a Democrat, you're not listening to what I've said.

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11 minutes ago, coffeebear said:

 

Son, if you think I've ever voted for a Democrat, you're not listening to what I've said.

 

Son?  Unless you're about 90 years old, you don't qualify as my father.  I'm 71 ...

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22 hours ago, O sleeper said:

My loyalty is to the country and the Constitution, not the government.

 

You don't see the logic fallacy in that statement?

 

You cannot have a country (nation) without government. In a Republican form of government, the government is comprised of representatives chosen by the people, enacted by the authority of the Constitution, which is derived from the people, and implemented by government. You are dividing what cannot be divided.

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8 minutes ago, MiguelCepeda said:

 

You don't see the logic fallacy in that statement?

 

You cannot have a country (nation) without government. In a Republican form of government, the government is comprised of representatives chosen by the people, enacted by the authority of the Constitution, which is derived from the people, and implemented by government. You are dividing what cannot be divided.

When I say my loyalty is not to the government, what I mean is the people that make up the government, the politicians. Most are corrupt and not worthy of the power they have, and I owe no allegiance to them.

Obviously, I am for the form of government the Constitution mandates. Just not necessarily the people that are in it.

Do you see what I mean?

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38 minutes ago, O sleeper said:

When I say my loyalty is not to the government, what I mean is the people that make up the government, the politicians. Most are corrupt and not worthy of the power they have, and I owe no allegiance to them.

Obviously, I am for the form of government the Constitution mandates. Just not necessarily the people that are in it.

Do you see what I mean?

I respect the notion of not supporting certain politicians, and even holding some in contempt as they richly deserve. But the original post stated the government is one of the enemies. I can't abide with that. If the citizenry did a shit job of voting for representatives, then that is on us. They are OUR representatives. 

 

I remember back in the day when militiamen used to frequent YahooGroups. I was reading a thread and amazed by some advocating planning to take down US military helicopters in event.......fill in the blank. That thinking is what has given militia groups a bad name. We need to work within the framework of government and stop thinking of government as the enemy. We elected a President to get government off our backs. He is doing that. Now we need to turn to the states and get involved. And in the background, do target folders on the real enemies because there may come a time when they have to be clipped neutralized.

 

 

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I don't think of the government as the enemy. I think many of the people in the government are. They make up the government, so it's easy to refer to them as the government, which is what I did. I agree with everything you said though.

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10 hours ago, O sleeper said:

I don't think of the government as the enemy. I think many of the people in the government are. They make up the government, so it's easy to refer to them as the government, which is what I did. I agree with everything you said though.

"Enemy" has a specific legal definition. I think there are many in government that have an adversarial interpretation to the US Constitution and a warped world view. I met some when I was in federal service. But I would never call them an enemy until such time they crossed the threshold of coming for my life. Curtailing liberty wouldn't necessarily put them in the "enemy" category because there is a lot of misinterpretation going on. It would have to be significant to bring me to the point of designating an enemy. ANTIFA, by their own assertions, is a legit enemy. Ditto NFAC.

 

I think we need to be extra careful with assigning the term "enemy". Useful idiots is probably closer to the truth. 

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