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Ideological Gambler

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The current events of our nation is something all patriots lement. The destruction of our Constitution that has been occurring long before my birth, The Balkanization of our nation and the people within, seeing Americans kill each other in the streets, as well as the voices of the average person being suppressed by those claiming to be systematically oppressed while the people of our union oppress each other, and themselves.

 

Defending yourself under the law is cause to be demonized while rioting and threatening innocent bystanders is held as justice for the downtrodden. Lives lost defending freedom are dragged through the mud while domestic Terrorists killed or physically pushed back on are heralded as martyrs and freedom fighters. This is a gruesome and vindictive cycle that is actively tearing apart every thread of our society which was already on fire.

 

The threats to our nation come from both within our borders and from lands outside of our home soil which would not be able to exist or act without our funding and support. Our political leadership is either in support of the mass assault of our society or at least are unwilling to act in direct opposition of it.

 

 The destruction we see in cities like Minneapolis and Seattle, Violence of the ilk of Portland Oregon, and the manipulation of people by both the media and the government is apparent. Bodies lay in our streets ranging from less than 10 years old up to past retirement age is a direct statement to the state of our union. 

 

The abhorrent conflict that has turned us all against each other is well underway. As with our last supposed civil war this civil and societal rupture is and indeed has been developing in a way different than any conflict seen in recorded history.

 

Our enemy is a conglomeration of ideas, beliefs, cults and violent mobs spanning the spectrum from useful yet ignorant masses fueled by unipolarized news, to semi-organized violent crowd based cult ideologies, to organized and hostile terror based militant groups such as John Brown Gun clubs, Marxist militias, redneck revolt, and militias that turned their backs on the American people and assist in training the aforementioned groups. This also encompasses politicians working in lock-step with these organizations whether out of fear, Pandering, or financial support. Even with the wide array of goals and ideologies these groups can rapidly and statically organize in the hundreds. They are well funded and supplied. During the Floyd Offensive, which was masked by coast to coast riots in the name of George Floyd; arms, Funding, equipment and goods that could be sold on the streets were looted which further helped with their funding and supply. 

 

On our side we have patriotic Americans, Preppers, Individual militiamen. While more ideologically drawn together we are far from unified. Militias in some areas are asking for public donations, Too many people just want to be seen as leaders while not putting in the effort or toil that comes with that position. Personal arguments and flaring overactive egos destroy units whether established or just starting as well as amongst patriots gathering on forums and other digital spheres. This is not to insult our community, Only an urge to push towards unity and maturing our movement to be ready for the future difficulties we will face. 

 

How can we hope to protect and preserve our communities or our constitution and liberty that countless patriots paid the utmost cost to honor and uphold. 

 

I do not claim to know what we will see in the future. I have only my experiences and observations; as well as a deep love for my American brothers and sisters, our constitution which while in tatters still stands resolute, and pure stubbornness to not turn my back on what I hold dear and what we all rally behind. Until my dying breath this I will defend at all costs and hold the line of Freedom and Liberty.

 

These colors don't run. This flag has NOT fallen or reversed. We assault forward unto Valhalla. No matter what we face, or what form this conflict takes, people across the world and both past and present will hear, heed, respect and join in with the battle cry of Freedom, Liberty, and America.

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Well stated. You are right on all fronts. My question to everyone is what will it take? What will be your personal catalyst to stand up and get your ass to move? Is it when your home is greeted by SWAT to confiscate your guns? Is it when a loved one loses their life to a BLM riot? Is it when we no longer have the means to communicate freely and organize due to mass censorship? I don't want to lose any of that. Whether you know it or not, or want to admit that you know it or not, the enemy has their finger on the trigger. And yes, it's loaded, they read the manual last night. Make no mistake, I am a strong, intelligent man. But my intelligent, strong ass CAN be killed by an idiot. The time of idle observation is drawing to a close for me. To what end?, I don't know yet. But then again, I'm probably just crazy, and over reacting.... or better yet, over idly observing. 

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Ideological Gambler

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I dont think you are over reacting. People have lost their lives (Duncan lemp was a mymilitia user) and 30 people have already died from the riots. One issue is most of the action has been in large cities where patriots are outnumbered. Most also dont think about how much thought and funding the enemy has. We must remain vigilant.

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Pretty much agree on all points here.  At what point are we going to stand up to this tyranny? Political and diplomatic means should always be attempted first. To that end, I believe we need to support the Convention of the States movement and propose amendments to the constitution to specifically prohibit these tyrannical usurpations (such as “lockdowns”) and   at the very least, use the convention as a formal “redress of grievances” WTP can “file” with Uncle Sam.  However, there are so many forces at work that will try to either stop this from happening or infiltrate it if it does happen with bad actors, that I am apprehensive at best about the measure for its success. Furthermore, the window is fast closing for that to be an effective measure in itself — it needs to be backed by something more than paper. The constitution can no more hold back the forces aligned against it (and all of us) than a fishing net could catch a nuclear submarine.

 

It is interesting to note that the Continental Congress tried (and tried again) to redress their grievances with the King, to no avail. They did this prior to adopting the Massachusetts Militia (and hence create the Continental Army). The Continental Congress did all this before the Declaration of Independence was sent to the King (if my memory serves me correctly). Then and only then, did the King declare war on the colonies.
 

In any event, I believe that, as Patriots, we have a duty to try and resolve our problems politically first. The problem with this is that the political system at large is no longer representing or even listening to the will of the people.
 

This is now true on even the state and local levels, with the draconian and arbitrary “rules” being enforced to “protect” us.  We are no longer allowed to worship freely, to congregate freely, to go about our daily lives without being literally muzzled by government-mandated masks, or to make a living without permission from government. Our children are not even allowed to go to school anymore.

 

At what point are we going to stand up and say enough is enough? How many more rights and liberties are they going to have to take before we take our country back from these barbarians? There aren’t that many left to take, and when those are gone we won’t have the ability to stand up anymore. After that it won’t be long before those of us who resist our “re-education” will be few in number and will be removed from the “ration card benefits” and subsequently sent to the gulag.

 

The Convention could serve as a backstop, before we make the terrible and irreversible move of using force to defend ourselves from tyranny.

The time is fast approaching however when we are going to have to do more than just talk about resisting this tyranny — we are going to have show that we will not back down from this fight. Not that we want a fight, but these barbarians are forcing us into a corner, and eventually I think that we are going to have to fight to save our liberties, for ourselves and for our posterity.

 

We should be vigorously preparing for this fight, individually and collectively, while working as hard as possible to avoid it using political and diplomatic means instead. 
 

When politics and diplomacy prove impossible in coming to resolution, then and only then should we raise the black flag and let loose the dogs of war...

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Great posts and replies much respect, but here are my 2 cents.

Diplomatic solutions with the left seems almost impossible, all the left understands is to spread fear and propaganda. Hence the constant propaganda against trump and the republicans since day one and no Im not saying the republicans are innocent by any means. Been doing nothing but getting worse and worse. Not Helping the people but placing their foot down on our throats and using every excuse to attack society to blame Trump. Sometimes words aren't enough especially since congress or even the senate cant get stuff out to help people because they are to greedy and worried about what's in it for them or putting the nation more in debt as well as who had a decent life before and now with this covid push and such, has destroyed millions of lives to be struggling. In this case that includes my family and I. We have hardly anything anymore, no food, bills so far behind we are struggling this entire year. Not looking for pity. Just stating a fact. They put out stuff to help people yet the rich get the help. For example the EIDL for small business. I see millions and millions going to those who don't need the help, we ask for help and only asked for 10k to get our business by and get told we don't meet the criteria? WTF? REALLY? Was suppose to help ALL small legit businesses,  Wait because we don't make millions a year we aren't important? Screw that, Im angry, I've had enough of them deciding what's best for us, and most of all I'm tired of them putting out bills and such that has NOTHING to do with what's going on, ANYTHING to line their pockets to get more control over our lives. 

Sorry but I am pissed off, as I worked hard for everything I have. I wasn't handed a silver spoon growing up. That's right like most of us we have earned what we have ,just to be told oh sorry you cant have this or that, you cant do this or that? Hell no, this is land of the free jack and we should be able to do ANYTHING we want. If I want a MG42, cause I want one? Who are you to tell me what I can or can not do. I want a hand grenade? That's my choice. Its not about the weapons, just examples.  Think of the movie demolition man.... look/sound familiar? Its about control, subduing the masses and using us as a bunch of cattle. NOT how its supposed to work. We the people have stood idle and bitch and moan about whats going on yet most sit back and think oh it'll get better.... well sorry not me, I'm tired of the bullshit this government is putting out. Tired of being suppressed and smothered all because they feel they can. I've watched carefully this whole entire year on how the political assholes have been acting. When this covid BS hit did any of you catch pelosi bragging about oh my 24k freezers yes freezers are full, I'm just enjoying my ice cream. What kind of jacked up shit is that? Meanwhile my family and millions of others have NOTHING because of everything halting and store shelves were empty and we couldn't get much of anything for food?  Now Im not condoning crimes, murders and suchas ANYTHING we want,  meaning doing anything we want as far as in the means of rules of a society.

No to hell with diplomatic solutions, sure they will be diplomatic and throw a dog a bone itll shut them up for now and then they will go back to the crooked shit that they do.  No its past that. Yea I may seem hostile, but to me its not hostility its passion of being an american that is suppose to have freedom, hence land of the free.... yes it comes at a price but was this the price in mind? To be slaves more or less to what THEY think is right for us?  I think not. Stand Tall, Stand Proud, and don't back down. Time to take back our freedom. 

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Gearbox I hear you, I’m pissed off too.  The elites have been squeezing the working class to death on purpose, because we are not their serfs or dependent on their handouts. It’s time to take back this country from the non-producing, worthless classes of both the elites and their serfs/useful idiots. Will using force be necessary to do this? I think so, unfortunately.
 

However, the major thing that’s holding me back from just rolling up my sleeves and kicking some ass is that that is exactly what the elites want us to do, they want patriots to get violent, and they will turn the whole power of state against us (while simultaneously ignoring and covering for the crimes and violence committed by the barbarians).  It’s an absolutely maddening prospect!  But our strategy must be to avoid playing into the enemies hands — here are some quotes from Sun Tzu’s Art of War to illustrate the importance of this:

 

“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected”

 

The greatest victory is that which requires no battle”

 

“Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory: 
1 He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. 
2 He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
3 He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. 
4 He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared. 
5 He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.“
 
“Thus the expert in battle moves the enemy”
 
“The wise warrior avoids the battle”
 
Bravery without forethought, causes a man to fight blindly and desperately like a mad bull.  Such an opponent, must not be encountered with brute force, but may be lured into an ambush and slain.”
 
Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical.”
 
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 
We are close reaching a critical position...
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Guest ROLLCENTER

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I am PRETTY SURE SUN TZU time is past Nam and Korea proved that to us.

We are now in the 21st century and our TACTICS will need to be pretty close to what we learned in 1774 just a lot faster pace !

Not to sure we will be massing for frontal attacks on anything. Its more then likely going to be a LRS war hit and run small teams that break up and disappear into the populace. 

I could be wrong buy hey if I was 100% right I would be a OFFICER !!!!!

 

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On 8/20/2020 at 3:12 PM, Stridertheranger said:

Pretty much agree on all points here.  At what point are we going to stand up to this tyranny? Political and diplomatic means should always be attempted first. To that end, I believe we need to support the Convention of the States movement and propose amendments to the constitution to specifically prohibit these tyrannical usurpations (such as “lockdowns”) and   at the very least, use the convention as a formal “redress of grievances” WTP can “file” with Uncle Sam.  However, there are so many forces at work that will try to either stop this from happening or infiltrate it if it does happen with bad actors, that I am apprehensive at best about the measure for its success. Furthermore, the window is fast closing for that to be an effective measure in itself — it needs to be backed by something more than paper. The constitution can no more hold back the forces aligned against it (and all of us) than a fishing net could catch a nuclear submarine.

 

It is interesting to note that the Continental Congress tried (and tried again) to redress their grievances with the King, to no avail. They did this prior to adopting the Massachusetts Militia (and hence create the Continental Army). The Continental Congress did all this before the Declaration of Independence was sent to the King (if my memory serves me correctly). Then and only then, did the King declare war on the colonies.
 

In any event, I believe that, as Patriots, we have a duty to try and resolve our problems politically first. The problem with this is that the political system at large is no longer representing or even listening to the will of the people.
 

This is now true on even the state and local levels, with the draconian and arbitrary “rules” being enforced to “protect” us.  We are no longer allowed to worship freely, to congregate freely, to go about our daily lives without being literally muzzled by government-mandated masks, or to make a living without permission from government. Our children are not even allowed to go to school anymore.

 

At what point are we going to stand up and say enough is enough? How many more rights and liberties are they going to have to take before we take our country back from these barbarians? There aren’t that many left to take, and when those are gone we won’t have the ability to stand up anymore. After that it won’t be long before those of us who resist our “re-education” will be few in number and will be removed from the “ration card benefits” and subsequently sent to the gulag.

 

The Convention could serve as a backstop, before we make the terrible and irreversible move of using force to defend ourselves from tyranny.

The time is fast approaching however when we are going to have to do more than just talk about resisting this tyranny — we are going to have show that we will not back down from this fight. Not that we want a fight, but these barbarians are forcing us into a corner, and eventually I think that we are going to have to fight to save our liberties, for ourselves and for our posterity.

 

We should be vigorously preparing for this fight, individually and collectively, while working as hard as possible to avoid it using political and diplomatic means instead. 
 

When politics and diplomacy prove impossible in coming to resolution, then and only then should we raise the black flag and let loose the dogs of war...

Thats right, ive been signing petitions , writing my congressman, we need to start entering laws we the people want into the ballot, we need to start paying attention and getting involved in the political arena. Anyway nice statement, hope for the best but prepare for the worst,! Unite and stand as one thats the only way our voice will be heard. ,

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The threats to our nation come from both within our borders and from lands outside of our home soil which would not be able to exist or act without our funding and support. Our political leadership is either in support of the mass assault of our society or at least are unwilling to act in direct opposition of it.

 

I'm frustrated and angry also, brother.  I've been pondering the state of the union for years as our liberties have been eroding and socialism has gained popularity.  This past year has been eye opening.  Many of our elected officials are willing to burn the country to the ground to keep or acquire power.  The deception is like we saw in communist states during the Cold War.  Politicians are naturally liars, but I never thought it would get like this.  I never thought government officials would try to remove an elected president or crash the economy to win an election, but, here we are ... and they NEED to win this election to ensure their crimes aren't investigated.

 

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Our enemy is a conglomeration of ideas, beliefs, cults and violent mobs spanning the spectrum from useful yet ignorant masses fueled by unipolarized news, to semi-organized violent crowd based cult ideologies, to organized and hostile terror based militant groups such as John Brown Gun clubs, Marxist militias, redneck revolt, and militias that turned their backs on the American people and assist in training the aforementioned groups. This also encompasses politicians working in lock-step with these organizations whether out of fear, Pandering, or financial support. Even with the wide array of goals and ideologies these groups can rapidly and statically organize in the hundreds. They are well funded and supplied.

 

I believe there is a literal enemy, but they're directing and funding all the activities you mention.  I've always thought it was one of the communist super-powers, but the events recently have revealed there are people within our own government working against the people to achieve their political goals.  Maybe there are several players with different objectives creating the perfect storm.  Maybe the politicians involved are being played for their ambition.  Maybe they've been blackmailed.  I don't think this is of organic or grass-roots origin though.  All the redactions in the FOIA docs indicate the Intelligence Community is involved.

 

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When politics and diplomacy prove impossible in coming to resolution, then and only then should we raise the black flag and let loose the dogs of war...

 

Agree.  Can we even clearly define the enemy?  Antifa and BLM aren't the enemy - they're just a bunch of "useful idiots" as Lenin would say.  Most of the power hungry politicians are probably just pawns.  It isn't D's vs. R's -  both parties want the same thing: power.  We have a moral crisis.  People in power or with influence are willing to cross moral boundaries to achieve their goals.  Everyone is a liar.  Our society can't function unless we agree to be honest and respect our neighbor whom we differ with.  What we see happening now is by design.  War is exactly what the Left needs to form a new government and rid themselves of that outdated Constitution we hold so dear.  They don't have the votes to amend it.  If patriots start bloodshed the Left will portray us as the enemy.  They control the media and have been very effective at persuading the masses. 

 

I've been asking myself where the IC is in this mess.  They can't be blind to it.  The Patriot Act gave them the power to read everyone's mail.  So, what are they doing?  Trump declaring Antifa a domestic terrorist organization opened the door for the IC to access any suspected Antifa comms. They may be pawns, but are they following this to the leadership?  If senior leadership are involved, they'll have to make a very solid case against them.  I don't think all the cards have been played.  I know there are many patriots in the IC - even if some of the leadership is compromised.  There are some patriots in congress.  I just hope they realize our enemy is getting ready to make a stand and will hold nothing back.  The good guys in congress have been playing by gentleman's rules.  Trump knows the gloves need to come off.  The rest are starting to see that.

 

 

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AGREE..!  Glad to see we are all pretty much on the same page, I think we are all finished with the disrespect, insults, and lies especially to those who made the ultimate sacrafice and those who sacraficed greatly for what we stand for and believe in and we all know what that is our G

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God given right to liberty, freedom, self determination, as laid out in our constitution, which they have trampled all over and thrown aside,  like its just some old outdated document....  they twist its meaning around to suit their needs...   Sorry but I went to school when kids were still taught its meaning, and what it stood for and who and what it  protects...  Sorry to go off into a rant but, but yea its starting to feel like we"ve been sold out, or beat down by every bunch of fuckin elitist assholes, from Holleywood punks, to big Tech, mainstream fake media , right down to a lot of our own representatives in Washington,,  They stand there and bitch and complain and talk tough for the cameras, and they dont do shit.!!  They've let the chicken lady and Charlie fuckin Brown,  run over em like they aint even got a pair...

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WHAT WE BELIEVE IN AND WHAT WE STAND FOR IS THE MORTAR THAT HOLDS THE BRICKS TOGETHER, I BELIEVE THAT IS OUR TRUE STRENGTH...
But we have got to get connected and organized in some fashion ,  individuals in groups and groups within certain areas, at least I would say some kind of a line of direct communication...   theres still time but at some point they will try to block us out ,,   its already starting to some degree, try to click on links to certain sites, you know what Im saying...  

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I used to give everyone the benefit of doubt. Not anymore since Obama was first elected. I am wary and do not open up to anyone other than family or close friends. I carry everywhere I go; even while checking mail, taking out trash or cutting lawn.

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