The Importance of Standards in a Group

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48 minutes ago, Ripcannon said:

hey now I'm not crazy its 95 cents per round.lol and like 43 cents a round when I buy it.i reload alot

Where do you find imi 77 grain for that cheap

[Quietsurvivalist 50]

Comes out at 71 cents at Sg Ammo

 

[Ripcannon 784]

Cheaperthandirt works for just about any ammo and it's normally cheap if that make sense.

[Ripcannon 784]

But on the topic of ammo Underwood. Makes these extreme penetraters and they come in 9mm and 10mm id  suggest them if you have a gun for um there great animal defense round or just awsum to shoot hard targets with.

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31 minutes ago, Ripcannon said:

But on the topic of ammo Underwood. Makes these extreme penetraters and they come in 9mm and 10mm id  suggest them if you have a gun for um there great animal defense round or just awsum to shoot hard targets with.

Yeah I got some they punch bullet resistant glass 

[Ripcannon 784]

I never tried that I shot a radiator and brake caliber 's that's my experience with it lol they work thru a deer skull a 10mm has no damage accept from the gun.

[TheBlackCat 141]

The grunts?  WTF.  Everyone has a place.  Too much Rooster struttin" won't make for a solid group to survive. 

Be glad you have people in your militia. Be glad you even have amm of any kind, stock up!  Do you reload?  you need to.  There are many weapons to defend yourself, your family and your country with.  Bows, Knives, Tomahawks, pelllet guns, bb guns, dirt/sand...the list is endless.  Food, no food and on and on.  When the shit hits the fan you will need to already have a group, hopefully, and some kind of a plan.  But if you think that it only needs hard core military ready men/women etc, then you are wrong.  That will be important but not the end all.  Nothing against groups that are totally into that and nothing else.  That is ok if you think that is the only way.  But you should be  willing to understand that you will need others, and other ideas. 

Too many roosters will cause chaos.  The main thing is to all stay connected, networked, and have any kind of plan and build from there. Plans change and grow with the situation and fluidity is a constant, it has to be.   Militia does not mean who is the biggest, fastest, has more weapons, the most ammo and the biggest whatever.....  unless you are not concerned with protecting the US Constitution, this Great Country and the values we cherish.

It is about "we the people", citizens of The United States of America that believe in our Constition, love this country, God and family are willing to do what is nessasary,  in any way we can. to save it and or rebuil it.   This post is not meant to offend anyone.  But  I believe in speakin my mind freely.

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4 hours ago, Ripcannon said:

 

I believe small teams are the only thing that works. Groups should be no bigger then 5.

[Ripcannon 784]

But one big group usually equal many small groups bro.there's just a benefit of having a fob  and a fall back place to store your kids and family food munition s.

Edited April 14, 2018 by Ripcannon

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9 hours ago, Ripcannon said:

But one big group usually equal many small groups bro.there's just a benefit of having a fob  and a fall back place to store your kids and family food munition s.

The reality is a big group is just only on paper.   It's impossible to get that many people to show up and train on a regular basis. 

[TheBlackCat 141]

If all the groups stay in communication in as many  ways as actually possible,  then all the small groups  will becom the larger group when and if the need arises.  And that should become a strong group, by bringing together the different skill sets etc of each smaller group.  The imoprtance of working together in times of need can't be underestimated.  Should there be an EMP or something Communications will be a key issue in bringing groups together, especially if there are several groups in a reasonably close proximity. 

I would assume most groups have thier own set of standards and they would be solid and good.  As groups join together in a time of need, the standards will remain high, but must be fluid and can be reworked so that the now larger group fuctions as a whole for the best of all.

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I have little interest in joining a bigger group.  I for one cannot stand the rank structure and self placed leadership. 

 

Two small teams without a leader is what would be very dangerous to a enemy.  You capture or kill one team you gain no information and didn't stop anything.  Larger groups create a huge foot print.

 

Emp hits at least you can drive for the most part. 

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Pa they have that nut job with the YouTube channel

[Ripcannon 784]

Witch one lol

[Ripcannon 784]

 

[TheBlackCat 141]

I wasn't suggesting everyone should or must  join a larger group per se,  but if all groups work together and or get together in times of need, especially groups in close proximity, there is strength in numbers.  The knowledge and skill pool gets larger and self apointed leaders will have to get over it and work with the other group to decide who is in charge of what, and certainly the groups can divide up and designate tasks, plan etc.  Even just having the groups communicating with each other would be of great importance.  There are many SHTF situations, not just one, so the ability to be flexible, fluid and work with other personalities without being a self appointed king of the hill is an important ability.   All situations will require leadership in some way and more than one leader in different capacities at times.  This is why Communicaton is so important and all groups should be strong in thier on right.  I don't think in most SHTF situations the size of footprint makes too much difference.  I can't see any reason groups woud capture each other.  I would hope most people have the same goals and we don't end up in an  "Apocalypse Now" situation. 

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He calls himself groom or commander something.  He sides with Antifa groups. 

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2 minutes ago, TheBlackCat said:

I wasn't suggesting everyone should or must  join a larger group per se,  but if all groups work together and or get together in times of need, especially groups in close proximity, there is strength in numbers.  The knowledge and skill pool gets larger and self apointed leaders will have to get over it and work with the other group to decide who is in charge of what, and certainly the groups can divide up and designate tasks, plan etc.  Even just having the groups communicating with each other would be of great importance.  There are many SHTF situations, not just one, so the ability to be flexible, fluid and work with other personalities without being a self appointed king of the hill is an important ability.   All situations will require leadership in some way and more than one leader in different capacities at times.  This is why Communicaton is so important and all groups should be strong in thier on right.  I don't think in most SHTF situations the size of footprint makes too much difference.  I can't see any reason groups woud capture each other.  I would hope most people have the same goals and we don't end up in an  "Apocalypse Now" situation. 

Ever see what we did to the Isis teams.  Of course you capture them for Intel. 

[TheBlackCat 141]

Capturing one of your own militia groups that are fighting for the same US Constitution and American families?  I don't see that, unless it's an everyone gone rogue situition. 

I'm not talking about ISIS here.

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43 minutes ago, TheBlackCat said:

Capturing one of your own militia groups that are fighting for the same US Constitution and American families?  I don't see that, unless it's an everyone gone rogue situition. 

I'm not talking about ISIS here.

You think every milita group is fighting for the same thing?  I would bet that half would turn on the population and attack and loot. 

 

Just look psm on you tube or groom

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Yeah they wanted to play private security and get paid . So much for working with the people.  Those groups would turn on the population and demand payment for security when time comes  

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8 hours ago, Megatron said:

You think every milita group is fighting for the same thing?  I would bet that half would turn on the population and attack and loot. 

 

Just look psm on you tube or groom

I don't use youtube frequently, never heard of groom and I don't use facebook.  And No I don't think every milita group on the planet is fighting for the same thing. 

Unfortunatly,  I did assume that most "We the People" citizens of the USA milita groups,  especially on this site, would be generally be fighting  to keep our families safe, our Country and Constitution in tact, and survive to continue on.  And yes,  basically for the same common cause.  I am not including idiots like Antifa in that assumption.  Guess I was terribly wrong,  because it seems to me that instead of fighting for our Constitution, families, communities and God given rights;  many groups  do intend on being dangerous, greedy and off the deep end.  I guess it's an inevitable fact.   So be it.  I will try to be prepared for that!  And yet,  I still belive that most militas should try to stay in Communication if they are of similar thinking and try to keep our constitution and values together in some way.  Everyone out for themself, and it's a fact some will be, will end badly and nothing positive is gained and the USA is no more.  That is something I would like to keep from happening. 

[Ripcannon 784]

Hey let's agree we all love murica.

[TheBlackCat 141]

'nuff said!

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Country is already lost.    You won't have the same country or area back.