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i simple wanna ask what is the culture of america today....do you think are founding fathers would be pleased with are "PROGRESS"...in my opinion are culture is dieing....its socially excepable to be a guy in public wearing girl shorts and shirt or a dress with lipstick on and shout things i wouldnt want my kids to hear..its socially acceptable now to be a jackass in public ...when i was a kid it was all about being manly and tough now-a-days you dont see that...or how about the use of opinions,,,anyway i dont think todays "CULTURE" is american culture at all..."Progress"killed it...dont get me wrong im sure some house holds have it...but thats tradition???  Culture is the social behavior and norms found in human societies. Culture is considered a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of phenomena that are transmitted through social learning in human societies....maybe we added to much in the cake mix of America its looking a little to pink and fluffy with rainbows

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An American culture is the goal that you as a poor kid can Climb the ladder to success and not have road blocks like government or class get in your way.  

 

Your free to dream and pursue happiness.  

 

I think the culture is here and it's better then other countries because millions try to come here.  

 

The Democrats and socialist Christians are finding ways to add road blocks and create a race war between us them.  They want open borders so the country collapses.   

 

 

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One of the problems is that equality of opportunity has been turned into equality of outcomes, which is in no way just.

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Its funny to see the different groups talk about culture in here.  You ask a conservative they talk about independence and climbing the ladder of success.  

 

You ask a Marxist and they bring emotional and division issues.  On race and identity politics. 

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i liked when you stated the American dream was culture...it made some sense...but other than that your just name calling....none one here is a socialist that ive found....if i really felt like it i could show you why your views are more on the dems side and i could also point out your non conservative statements...lets face it,,,the people on this site for the most part are independent thinkers...not anything you can put a title on...to pick a side gives makes you less independent and more to a script....i dont think the american dream is culture by definition but it was a good answer....id like to see more of that from you...instead of the antagonistic side that comes out every now and again,,,,"dont get me wrong i love that shit"(sometimes)... https://ohscurrent.org/archive/opinions-archive/2015/01/24/is-the-american-dream-attainable/

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1 hour ago, Ripcannon said:

i liked when you stated the American dream was culture...it made some sense...but other than that your just name calling....none one here is a socialist that ive found....if i really felt like it i could show you why your views are more on the dems side and i could also point out your non conservative statements...lets face it,,,the people on this site for the most part are independent thinkers...not anything you can put a title on...to pick a side gives makes you less independent and more to a script....i dont think the american dream is culture by definition but it was a good answer....id like to see more of that from you...instead of the antagonistic side that comes out every now and again,,,,"dont get me wrong i love that shit"(sometimes)... https://ohscurrent.org/archive/opinions-archive/2015/01/24/is-the-american-dream-attainable/

The American dream is unique and makes it our culture.   Our independence and push to strive to make life better.

 

If you can provide facts about my socialist views please state them.  I didnt point out people who fit my narrative but If you find that you fit so be it.

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On 8/18/2018 at 6:56 PM, Skillet said:

One of the problems is that equality of opportunity has been turned into equality of outcomes, which is in no way just.

 

Exactly and that is the cry of Socialism! 

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On 8/18/2018 at 7:42 PM, Ripcannon said:

i simple wanna ask what is the culture of america today....do you think are founding fathers would be pleased with are "PROGRESS"...in my opinion are culture is dieing....its socially excepable to be a guy in public wearing girl shorts and shirt or a dress with lipstick on and shout things i wouldnt want my kids to hear..its socially acceptable now to be a jackass in public ...when i was a kid it was all about being manly and tough now-a-days you dont see that...or how about the use of opinions,,,anyway i dont think todays "CULTURE" is american culture at all..."Progress"killed it...dont get me wrong im sure some house holds have it...but thats tradition???  Culture is the social behavior and norms found in human societies. Culture is considered a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of phenomena that are transmitted through social learning in human societies....maybe we added to much in the cake mix of America its looking a little to pink and fluffy with rainbows

 

I think the founding fathers would roll over in the graves at the clusterph*(k that modern Americans have made it to be. ) 

 

There is all this talk of diversity, but if you're white, the Democrats have it in for you.  They accept Bernie Sanders the Socialist, Obama the Muslim extremist, and they are the party of the sexually depraved (cross dressers, pedophiles, drunks, and any group that has an issue with whites in general.

 

On the other side of the aisle are the Republicans.  They have become Socialist Lite.  They were too stupid to rise up against a president (Bush) when he said the Constitution wasn't nothing but a G.D. piece of paper.  They defend a president now that says G.D. in front of women, but expects their ministers to never utter a dirty word (much less take God's name in vain.)  

 

We stick a sign out there on the Statue of Liberty that welcomes the poor and the huddled masses only for our society to become elitists and want to exclude the poor.  The only way the elitists see for them coming here is to become a citizen... and they don't want to become citizens and we don't need them as citizens.

 

The youth are more concerned with body piercings, tattoos, pot and other drugs so they are not contributing members to an advancing civilization.  And we'd rather keep tabs on them, wrecking their lives by doing "background checks" on people and trusting records created by an illegal and corrupt government than to give them a second chance to prove themselves.

 

There are no longer any constitutionalists that would uphold the principles set forth by the founders.  Sadly, even on this board, people are so offended by the First Amendment that they would threaten the owner rather than allow some people an opportunity to speak their mind.  When you don't toe the line, these wannabe tyrants want to lock you out because they're too lazy and stupid to entertain two or more sides to an issue.  We are a nation that upholds an income tax that was taken directly from the Communist Manifesto.  

 

Truly good has become evil and evil has become good.  Even among people that get on these boards, they can't tell you the difference between an unalienable Right and an inalienable right.  As such, they think that only the elite have Rights; that government can infringe upon those Rights; and that men who fought, bled and died in order to establish a nation acknowledging Liberty were fools.  If the militia of today fought the enemies of America as hard as they fight each other, the war for Freedom and Liberty would be won in two weeks.  But, here is the problem:

 

The modern militia is going to the same destination as the left / Democrats.  They are simply taking a different route to get there.  They do not object to the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT - ONE RELIGION / ONE RACE/ NEW WORLD ORDER.  They embrace it!  All the crap they spew about wanting to protect Americans by building up the biggest, massive and most repressive government in recorded history testifies against any pretext of Freedom they pay lip service to.  If you stand on the foundations the founders of this country did,  you are more likely to be attacked by the right than the left.  Adding insult to injury, when the left has wanted to call me out, they usually send in someone with enough courage to say name the time and the place.  

 

Our people, those who are descended those who maintained Freedom and Liberty, have become weak.  They peck on keyboards and talk trash they don't have the courage to go out and say to the faces of the people they pretend to want to fight.  they are ignorant and stupid, preferring to buy into snake oil rather than examine the genesis of the power brokers that control their lives.  They answer to National Socialists and the rich elite representing organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations (the Trump - Murdoch connection.)  Our leadership is a collection of tax cheats that think the 16th Amendment is good enough for you, but not for them.  It is run by people that misappropriate your tax money.  But, what the Hell.  Most of you make enough money that apparently you don't care what they spend that money on.

 

The culture we have today of talking to each other with disrespect and disdain is no culture.  Silencing people for unpopular views and not having any moral compass is not a culture.  Locking your own posterity out of society with endless background checks because you're afraid to meet someone face to face and let the current judge them, not the past shows that we are a nation without compassion or courage.  That is not a culture.  Hiding our religious heritage and ignoring it is not a culture.  Censorship, harassment and intimidation is not a culture.  Disrespecting your ancestors is not a culture.  Allowing the black people to use the N word while destroying a white man's life for doing it is not a culture.  Forcing people to believe in racist policies as a prerequisite to exercising unalienable Rights is not a culture.  The only "culture" that we have today is the same one that caused God to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah over.  

 

Welcome to America.  Before you can walk past your front door you must be subject to the pee test, blood test, hair sample, DNA sample, criminal background check, MVR check, credit check, and have your National ID Card, driver's license, occupation license, hunting license, fishing license, firearm license (if you live in a place that allows you to own a firearm), Socialist  Security Number ...ooops "Social Security Number," car registration, and proof of insurance with you.  Because you cannot be trusted you must be under surveillance 24 / 7 / 365 and if you insist on privacy, your fellow subjects in the NEW WORLD ORDER are prepared to bring the wrath of Satan down on you by employing social media to make your life a soap opera.  

 

Ask the average American what Constitution they believe in and they cannot or will not tell you.  In reality, they enjoy the "living Constitution" so that what is acceptable today is suddenly illegal tomorrow.   They've had it so easy for so long they have only proven that peace and plenty makes cowards of men.  That being said, we really have nothing left to fight for and today's militia is little more than a few guys that get off by running around the woods in their cammies, playing soldier.  They live in both historical and political ignorance.  They are afraid to take a stand and the people they follow are corrupt to the core.  They really do not attend a church, pray to a God and cannot articulate their ethical standards because the only standard we have is that the most popular position or person is the flavor of the day.  

 

That my friend is the observation of someone that dedicated their life to the fight only to watch it go up in flames because, as Thomas Jefferson observed:  "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yeild,  (sic) and government to gain ground."  

 

Liberty can yield no further.  It is nonexistent... not here, not with Republicans, not Democrats, nor among those who think that the modern militia is representative of anything.  We stand for nothing and we are going nowhere.  That's my view.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, The Resister said:

We stick a sign out there on the Statue of Liberty that welcomes the poor and the huddled masses only for our society to become elitists and want to exclude the poor.  The only way the elitists see for them coming here is to become a citizen... and they don't want to become citizens and we don't need them as citizens.

There was no sign stuck on the Statue of Liberty (opened in 1886) that welcomes the poor and huddled masses.  The poem you are referring to is in the pedestal (placed there on a small plaque in an obscure place in the lower level in 1903 by the then First Lady) and no immigrant coming through Ellis Island ever saw it while being processed. Most immigrants back then never even knew the poem existed. It was the Progressives during the 1920's and 1930's that tried to make the poem a welcoming issue.

 

People immigrating here are not required to become citizens, it is a choice they make, provided they are in a visa that allows them. Elitists have nothing to do with our laws in place. The worlds poor have opportunities to come here as well via numerous visas.

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30 minutes ago, The Resister said:

The youth are more concerned with body piercings, tattoos, pot and other drugs so they are not contributing members to an advancing civilization.  And we'd rather keep tabs on them, wrecking their lives by doing "background checks" on people and trusting records created by an illegal and corrupt government than to give them a second chance to prove themselves.

What happens when they fail their second, third, or even fourth chance? They have the right to do to themselves what they choose, and an employer has a right not to hire them for whatever reason. If they really wanted to work and contribute to society, they  themselves would choose to make the right choices. As to background checks, do you really want a pedophile working in a day care center or around children? Do you want an alcoholic/drug addict driving a truck or flying a plane? If you have your own business, you can dismiss what ever records you choose of your prospective employees record.

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3 hours ago, WMD said:

What happens when they fail their second, third, or even fourth chance? They have the right to do to themselves what they choose, and an employer has a right not to hire them for whatever reason. If they really wanted to work and contribute to society, they  themselves would choose to make the right choices. As to background checks, do you really want a pedophile working in a day care center or around children? Do you want an alcoholic/drug addict driving a truck or flying a plane? If you have your own business, you can dismiss what ever records you choose of your prospective employees record.

 

You should not address me Club Fed.  You are dishonest.  If / when a background check is warranted, it may be granted.  I don't need to know that a 27 year old college student wanting a job smoked a joint at 16 on order to hire him to work at MickeyDs or cut my grass.

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2 minutes ago, The Resister said:

If / when a background check is warranted, it may be granted. 

Its the employers choice in most instances, some contract jobs require background checks.

 

3 minutes ago, The Resister said:

 I don't need to know that a 27 year old college student wanting a job smoked a joint at 16 on order to hire him to work at MickeyDs or cut my grass.

You wouldn't know that since the 16 year olds record would be sealed and a background check wouldn't reveal it.

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12 minutes ago, WMD said:

Its the employers choice in most instances, some contract jobs require background checks.

 

You wouldn't know that since the 16 year olds record would be sealed and a background check wouldn't reveal it.

 

Whatever dude. If the guy smoked a joint at 18, anybody can get his record.  I forgot that you working for the feds, only people in the LEO community have access to ALL the records, regardless of age.

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4 hours ago, The Resister said:

If the guy smoked a joint at 18, anybody can get his record.

That's the difference between an adult (18) and a child (16).

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