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Navy vet, staunch constitutionalist and devout christian here. Ive sat by for the last 8 years and watched this once great nation deteriorate into a cesspool of filth and corruption. I have never been more ashamed to be an american than i am today. I feel like the time for a peaceful and political solution has come and gone. I know many of us had high hopes that president trump would right this sinking ship, but alas he has failed to do so. I believe now is the time for action. For proper planning, organization and strategy. Im interested in connecting with like minded individuals who agree that its time to draw a line in the sand and declare the progressives will gain no further ground. As i see it today, we have exhausted all other means. We have tried the soap box, and the left censors us, we have tried the ballot box. The politicians betray us. Our last hope is the ammo box. Its with a heavy heart that i realize the changes we need will only come from the barrel of a gun. We need to stand and fight before our ability to do so is taken from us like so many of our rights. If need be, i will fire the first shot. I have little to loose, yet we collectively have so much to gain.

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I too am a vet of the US Army and what you are saying has been the heartbeat within my chest for some time.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you are saying. Enough has been enough for some time. Trump can’t do it alone, he needs Patriots to take a REAL stand and say enough of this crap!!! 

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I think a lot of patriots are waiting and willing... but, there is no clear leadership or objective. I'm sure the men and women in the Military are waiting and willing, too.  But, the political leaders who could get the ball rolling keep talking peace, patience, and so forth.  The political socialist left will not listen, does not care to listen, and is unable to reason.  They say peace, but, they don't mean peace.  They say tolerance, but, they don't mean tolerance.  They want to take away our freedom and our rights and they are willing to use violence to accomplish those ends.  Yet, we are told by the right wing pundits to emulate Ghandi and MLK jr.  Peaceful protest, let them hit first.  They've been hitting first for several years now.  Unfortunately, that peace first principle doesn't work against communists and anarchists.  Sheep led to the slaughter at the moment.  Those old tactics of political peaceful protest only work with reasonable people.  Not so much with radical leftists.  We're learning this lesson quickly in Portland.  Black Bloc owns those streets.  Violence is ignored.  Individuals caught usually get probation and a slap on the wrist. Police don't even gear up half the time... they show up in bike shorts and form bicycle barricades.  

 

But, we all know.  Nothing can be done.  Any action by the Patriot right will be used against us to paint us as racists, bigots, and Nazi's.  If the Patriots start fighting, the leftists will be dragging the National Guard, Law Enforcement, and the U.N. into our streets.  They will immediately push legislation to shred the 2nd Amendment.  And they'll control the narrative to accomplish the task.  They know if we fight, they win in the public eye.  They want  so badly to prove their narrative of white supremacist nazi's marching in the streets killing peaceful leftist political activists.  We're stuck between a rock and hard place.  We have no one to give us the thumbs up.  We can't act without political backing and support of LE and Military.  

 

 

 

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Below is the language in the most recent resolution to declare Antifa an domestic terrorist organization.  As you can see, there is never a need to refresh the tree of liberty in America according to Cassidy and Cruz.

 

"Whereas there is no place for violence in the discourse between people in the United States, or in any civil society, because the United States is a place where there is a diversity of ideas and opinions..."

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You hit the nail on the head, but where do we go from here? What do we do? We don’t just wait for them to come for us either. Inaction is also NOT an option unless it’s surrender and I WILL NEVER SURRENDER!!!

This is precisely why I’m reaching out, searching for those likeminded people to unite and take action in a way that gets us forward. 

Mice asked myself often; why is there not a legitimate Conservative party?! 

 

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I firmly believe that inaction is our only option at this time.  I don't like it.  It's not the answer that anyone likes to hear during these times.  But, as far as I can tell there is no major attempt at coordination among the various militia groups at this time.  Without a clear objective and avenue to carry it out there can be no implementation of action. The political right is leaning hard on Trump to clean things up.  That is our best bet for now.  2020 is going to give us a better idea of the next step. 

 

In the mean time, there are other considerations.  I don't believe our militia units have any where near the number of fighting men and women necessary to carry out any type of major campaign.  Furthermore, Militia groups are predominantly located in Red States and Rural communities.  All of that bopping around in the woods and mock house sweeping won't amount to beans in a domestic civil war scenario.  Former combat experienced military will have an advantage over civilians in this regard.  At least as far as the sensation of having no idea where you're being shot at from goes.  You're talking having to relocate resources and units from 'fly-over' territory to blue locations around the nation (predominantly coast and rust belt).  Transport of people, munitions, supplies, with pickup trucks and minivans involves a ton of time, money, and communication that we simply do not have.  We don't have the ability to run convoys like the U.S. Military nor do we have the air assets to assist in shipment.  Without political support and military support, we are hard pressed to do anything.  How many employers are going to let their employees go off on some civil war expedition... who will pay bills and pay for groceries while the fly-over citizens relocate to clean up the leftist dung heaps? 

 

Even if we were able to coordinate to move units... then you have to engage in urban combat with individuals who will not be wearing uniforms (you better believe antifa will be ditching the black bloc uniform real fast if patriots in bdu's show up), and having to deal with the complications of identifying other friendly units in the area and distinguishing them from leftist militants (JBGC & Redneck Revolt) who may opt to wear uniforms.  The other option is blockade and starve out (which someone inevitably brings up)... but, that puts a lot of innocents under duress and hardship.  Furthermore, unless you can stop the airways to large cities, blockade is useless.  

 

Let's say we even manage to sort out those complications.  What about prisoners?  Where do we put them?  Who is going to prosecute them?  Again, we need political and military support.

 

The government will be scrambling to manage the situation before it even begins.  You better believe they monitor forums like these.  All the big names are gunna fly the minute they find out forces are on the way.  Big names will be on their way to New Zealand before you can say go if they genuinely believe they are at risk.  

 

Anything carried out prior to political and military consent will be immediately branded as extremist and used against the patriot movement.  

 

 

 

 

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If it happens, it will be a civil war with the government being split into two major warring factions ( us against the traitors ). You'll all know without a doubt exactly when to grab your kit and where to go.  All you need to do is to get with like minded people in your area, prepare as best you can and be ready for it.

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