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El Paso Texas Mass Shooting Response: What To Do Going Forward

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I totally agree with this post except for one point made in it.  My family needs and depends on me so it is my primary duty to escape and protect myself and any family with me for their sakes if no other.  If you have to engage with a shooter to do this then certainly do so, if not then you should avoid engaging the shooter at all costs and leave the area if possible.  I am not going to take any chance of leaving my wife widowed and kids fatherless because some sheeple are allowing themselves to be sheared because they don't carry a weapon to protect themselves, not to mention possibly being permanently injured, sued by shooter's relatives and possibly even being arrested and charged by the local law enforcement and government for getting involved.  So to summarize, if you have to engage a shooter to survive or keep from being injured then do so, if not then avoid doing so.  #ALWAYSCARRY

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I'm glad you already have a course of action so " justincase" your ready...good to hear...do you remember that church shooting and that guy I think his name was Stephen willeford...well he chased down and killed that pos.I don't think we should fear legal repercussions witch was a decision I personally made...my line in the sand is crossed when anyone willingly attempts murder in my presents...however I get what your saying for some of us are family's would be shit outta luck if we go down...

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In most instances there would be no legal repercussions but there are cases where people have stepped in and they were arrested charged and convicted as well as successfully sued by family members of the attackers.  Put yourself in your spouse's or kids shoes and imagine how you would feel if your loved one died engaging a shooter and they didn't have to.  How are they going to feel knowing you didn't have to die?  Sure we all want to blow these scumbag PsOS clean off this earth but you have to think about what is most important and what your highest priorities and duties are.  God, family then state.  I am a firm believer in don't engage a shooter unless you absolutely have to.  Then if you have to engage, make sure they are never going to breathe air again.

 

Fighting & Surviving Terrorists or Mass Shooters?

 

 

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Had to turn off the tv and get online for awhile. Too many people blaming the shootings on what the president says; and on guns, which, the last time I checked, don't make decisions for themselves. 

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What to do going forward?  I'll tell you what I've done.  During President Trump's current term, I've written to him several times.  I was answered each time.  This is what I wrote, today:

 

Dear Mr. President,

 

I realize that you are under tremendous pressure to take some sort of action ... indeed, any sort of action ... after El Paso and Dayton.  With respect, sir, I advise against this course of action.  Whoever is advising you to use the language of the Left should be fired.  If you lose America's gun-owners (and the vast majority of us are faithful and true to our nation, and voted for you in 2016), you will inevitably lose the 2020 election cycle, with terrible consequences for our nation.  We will not give up our weapons.  They are part and parcel of our Second Amendment Rights.  The Supreme Court in two cases has declared that Americans have a unique and individual right to keep and bear arms.

 

Don't let these mass killings ... one of which was committed by a devoted Democrat activist ... destroy the future of America.  We, who are gun owners, and most of whom of NRA members, are prepared to vote for you, again, next year, and try to give you a viable majority in the House of Representatives.  Don't be the President who allows freedom and liberty to slip through the fingers of the American people.

 

God Bless You!

Respectfully,

"Headhunter"

Veteran of 101st Airborne

Vietnam 1968-69

 

Naturally, "Headhunter" was replaced by my real name.  We need every member of the Militia to send a letter like the one, above, to President Trump, immediately.  The Left doesn't intend to let this opportunity slide.

 

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5 minutes ago, Headhunter said:

What to do going forward?  I'll tell you what I've done.  During President Trump's current term, I've written to him several times.  I was answered each time.  This is what I wrote, today:

 

Dear Mr. President,

 

I realize that you are under tremendous pressure to take some sort of action ... indeed, any sort of action ... after El Paso and Dayton.  With respect, sir, I advise against this course of action.  Whoever is advising you to use the language of the Left should be fired.  If you lose America's gun-owners (and the vast majority of us are faithful and true to our nation, and voted for you in 2016), you will inevitably lose the 2020 election cycle, with terrible consequences for our nation.  We will not give up our weapons.  They are part and parcel of our Second Amendment Rights.  The Supreme Court in two cases has declared that Americans have a unique and individual right to keep and bear arms.

 

Don't let these mass killings ... one of which was committed by a devoted Democrat activist ... destroy the future of America.  We, who are gun owners, and most of whom of NRA members, are prepared to vote for you, again, next year, and try to give you a viable majority in the House of Representatives.  Don't be the President who allows freedom and liberty to slip through the fingers of the American people.

 

God Bless You!

Respectfully,

"Headhunter"

Veteran of 101st Airborne

Vietnam 1968-69

 

Naturally, "Headhunter" was replaced by my real name.  We need every member of the Militia to send a letter like the one, above, to President Trump, immediately.  The Left doesn't intend to let this opportunity slide.

 

I just submitted a similar letter to President Trump myself through GOA.  Everyone needs to let their voices be heard on this.

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Neither of the shooters were Trump supporters by any stretch of the imagination, but all you hear is how it's his fault. A lot of people need to be called out on this, but you know how that goes.

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The Russians and Trump stole the election, Judge Kavanaugh is a rapist, climate change is man made and the president and his supporters are white supremacists. One hoax, one lie after another perpetuated by politicians and the MSM.

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I went to the FBI website for some information, and I found the following, which I thought would be interesting to everyone here.

 

Out of 325+ million people in the United States, in the year 2017, 15,129 people were murdered in that calendar year. Of these, 6579 deaths were white, and 7851 were black (with blacks making up approximately 12% of the entire population). Also, 2354 Hispanics were murdered. Murder is generally confined to one's own race. meaning whites generally murder whites, blacks generally murder blacks, and so on.

 

When one takes into account white on black murder, black on white murder, and same race murders, it is obvious that blacks kill each other at much higher rates than any other race, given the fact that they make up about 12% of the overall population.

 

One final and interesting fact that can be gleaned by checking the FBI statistics is that clubs and knives are used much more than guns in the commission of US homicides.

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-i....

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6 minutes ago, Let_Freedom_Ring said:

Sorry but none of these facts tug at my heartstrings to trigger me into screaming DO SOMETHING!!!   😉

 

Well, brother, I provided those for information.  Not to trigger you.  Enough people are getting "triggered" in America, if you know what I mean!  The most interesting statistic from 2017 is that rifles are used in very few offenses, in these United States, but they are at the top of the list of things the Lefties want to do away with ...

 

In 2017, out of over 814 homicides, rifles were used in 24 incidents.

 

By the way, where do I find the "emoticons"?

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1 hour ago, e.c.c. said:

Judge Napolitano weighs in on the subject.

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6069129326001/#sp=show-clips

I can't remember any time Judge Napolitano has said something that I haven't agreed wholeheartedly with him about it. We need a boat load like him on the Supreme court! 

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On 8/4/2019 at 11:46 AM, Let_Freedom_Ring said:

In most instances there would be no legal repercussions but there are cases where people have stepped in and they were arrested charged and convicted as well as successfully sued by family members of the attackers.  Put yourself in your spouse's or kids shoes and imagine how you would feel if your loved one died engaging a shooter and they didn't have to.  How are they going to feel knowing you didn't have to die?  Sure we all want to blow these scumbag PsOS clean off this earth but you have to think about what is most important and what your highest priorities and duties are.  God, family then state.  I am a firm believer in don't engage a shooter unless you absolutely have to.  Then if you have to engage, make sure they are never going to breathe air again.

 

Fighting & Surviving Terrorists or Mass Shooters?

 

 

 

I had a good friend, in a suburb just outside of Chicago, who was a police sergeant.  It was a busy night, and he personally answered a call for help.  When he arrived, he saw a barely-dressed man wielding a re-bar alternately as a club and a spear at several frightened people.  As soon as the man saw my friend, he turned on him and attacked.  About a minute later, and with 36 x 9mm bullets in him ... 2 magazines worth ... the man went down.  He was high on PCPs, and had decided that everyone he saw was an alien.  It cost him his life, but it also cost a good man his job.  The shame of being fired from his job dragged him down physically and psychologically, and he died at the young age of 57.

 

If someone were to come into my home, in the middle of the night, I would have no choice but engage.  I live on the second floor of an apartment building.  Otherwise, I would agree that avoiding a gunfight is a good idea.

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