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After redefining what a machine gun is I kinda wonder this myself...I hear him on his interviews lately and he says things like background checks...today he did say he stands with the 2a but I'm still a little weary about this...I kinda wanna know what y'all think about this???I'm unsure and the election is coming TRUMP2020

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41 minutes ago, Ripcannon said:

After redefining what a machine gun is I kinda wonder this myself...I hear him on his interviews lately and he says things like background checks...today he did say he stands with the 2a but I'm still a little weary about this...I kinda wanna know what y'all think about this???I'm unsure and the election is coming TRUMP2020

I just hope he's placating the general public, and not going to do more harm to the 2A.

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11 minutes ago, Dav Harzin said:

I just hope he's placating the general public, and not going to do more harm to the 2A.

Do more harm.... that is the sound of good for the second amendment 

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The truth is he's a FUDD.  He's not a real gun person or real knowledgeable in guns.  He will protect your right to own a pistol or shotgun or basic rifle but things that he doesn't consider truly part of the gun to him aren't protected under the 2nd amendment; like bump stocks, pistol grips, magazines over 10 rounds, suppressors, he will sign over if the legislation gets to him.  Not to mention letting the genie of bypassing due process with red flag laws out of the bottle.  He doesn't see these things as protected under the 2nd amendment because in his mind, only owning a gun of "some kind" is protected.  I think he will sign all of this legislation if it makes it to his desk.  He will stop short of full confiscation but he will get them set up just short of it for them to finish it off after his term.  By the same token though, if the legislation doesn't make it to his desk, he won't campaign very strongly or try to push for it.

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Honestly, this is an example of an area that President Trump has a serious blind spot.  I don't think he is particularly knowledgeable when it comes to firearms.  Which puts him in the same company as most politicians.  I think President Trump is a man who listens and is willing to consider a variety of view points.  I'm not as cynical as some who just label Trump a traitor or a con-man or whatever angle they want to take.  He's not a politician by trade.  He's a business man.  That difference is worth considering.  He's not a lawyer nor was he groomed by the political process.  He just does what he thinks will work based upon info from other people. Trump has a lot of voices talking in his ears at the moment.  Hopefully the correct voices prevail as he 'considers' options - one of which is to do nothing.  Remember folks, Trump is just like any other human being in the world - including you and me.  He doesn't know everything.  Nor do we.  One of his strengths is that he recognizes this fact and tries to find knowledgeable people to help him.  The problem is that sometimes the voices filling his ears are the wrong voices.  

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I have no trust in Trump when it comes to 2nd Amendment issues.  I am starting to believe he was put in office to push through the things that if they were done under a Demoncrat we would be going to war the next day.  I fully expect he will sign off on Federal Red Flag and Registration.....I mean Expanded Background Checks Laws.  And when he does it the brain washed masses will applaud his "common sense" reforms.  Because everything Trump does is for the best of the nation because he believes in our freedoms......BS!  And I admit I voted for him.  I seriously believed he was looking out for our freedoms.  Then I saw what he did with bumpstocks, giving the ATF the power to reclassify whatever they want without a corresponding piece of legislation authorizing it.  Add to that the comments he has made concerning supporting gun control issues!  I gave up on him and don't trust him now.  I consider this the calm before the storm along the lines of 1774, 1860, or 1938.

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I emailed GOA asking them to put out information on which presidential candidate regardless of party affiliation or if independent, would be the the clear best choice for 2A.  Hopefully they will come up with a presidential candidate rating section just like they do for Congress and the House.  Hopefully they will come up with an answer before the next primaries.  Anyone on here have any suggestions? 

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https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/06/234575/2020-candidates-gun-control-issue ...I see it your way...I'm pretty sure I'm going with trump 2020 unless uncle ted runs...but I'm the first to tell you I like him a little less this time...kinda messed with freedom in my country.... And I believe if we get another good candidate for president it could calm down the left which would be great...but I fully support him I'm just not blind.

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Don't apologize for voting for trump in 2016... the alternative, Hillary Clinton, was simply not acceptable.  If the choice in 2020 is between Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren and Trump; he'll get my vote again.  He's an egomaniac of the highest order, but he's a better choice than a communist who wants an all-controlling government and personal liberties be damned.

 

We need to face facts, however, and if you accept the biblical perspective (I do) the future does not bode well for freedom loving people in the long term.  We don't have a religious government, nor should we, but a one-world (socialist/UN) government would be the end of the United States and it's Constitution.  The sad part is, I see the "constitutionalists" as a dwindling influence... and that means only one thing.

 

Having said that, even Trump is taking us down that same road, but at a much slower pace.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, John Last said:

Don't apologize for voting for trump in 2016... the alternative, Hillary Clinton, was simply not acceptable.  If the choice in 2020 is between Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren and Trump; he'll get my vote again.  He's an egomaniac of the highest order, but he's a better choice than a communist who wants an all-controlling government and personal liberties be damned.

 

We need to face facts, however, and if you accept the biblical perspective (I do) the future does not bode well for freedom loving people in the long term.  We don't have a religious government, nor should we, but a one-world (socialist/UN) government would be the end of the United States and it's Constitution.  The sad part is, I see the "constitutionalists" as a dwindling influence... and that means only one thing.

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, John Last said:

Walk softly but carry a big stick.  Work for peace, but prepare for "the worst".  A house divided cannot stand.  Our struggle is not against governments, but ideas.

Si vis pacem para bellum

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