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While we are finishing working on concepts for presentation to Kansas Allied Patriots I am making a number of threads to get conversations started. Due to time constraints I will be responding later after work but I encourage everyone to jump on and socialise, discuss ideas and share knowledge.

Camouflage is always a good topic, and as the scenery varies different patterns and suppliers should be taken into account. Here we can discuss the best patterns for our areas and maybe get a set pattern for the State level. 

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Guest ZombiesAteMyPoo

Good thread.

 

im a little on the middle ground for using camo. I think it just blends too much with the U.S. Armed Forced and such. Personally I think non U.S. military print  tactical clothes are well suited. 
 

With that being said, Scorpion definitely is a great pattern for most areas of KS. 

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On 2/5/2020 at 2:44 AM, Ideological Gambler said:

I currently have Desert MARPAT and am in the process of acquiring OCP. I have a backup set of UCP but prefer not to use it. I personally doubt its effectiveness in any scenario. 

 

Just dye the ucp and it solves the problem 

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On 1/21/2020 at 4:29 PM, Ideological Gambler said:

While we are finishing working on concepts for presentation to Kansas Allied Patriots I am making a number of threads to get conversations started. Due to time constraints I will be responding later after work but I encourage everyone to jump on and socialise, discuss ideas and share knowledge.

Camouflage is always a good topic, and as the scenery varies different patterns and suppliers should be taken into account. Here we can discuss the best patterns for our areas and maybe get a set pattern for the State level. 

 

it does not matter what your cammo is if you can not hide from technology. 

> while you were working for your bread they were stealing your income and buying technology to enslave you.  

> while you paid to go to that foozball game they were stealing your income and buying radios and networking the technology thru a wireless network to enslave you.

> while you were standing in line to buy your very own copy of the latest call of duty they were buying more thin blue line soldiers and training them in the ongoing campaign in the middle east beta testing how to take over the United States of America.

> while you were sitting in your apartment watching the latest black mirror episode where long term robot dogs kill off the remainder of the population, they sent their soldiers to kidnap and cage the man down the street testing the waters to see just how the population would react, calling him a criminal, or a "bad guy"...

> while you stood in line for the latest iphone they signed into "law" the TAPSACT, the Patriot act, so on so on, ensuring they had the little pieces of paper saying that you agreed to their plans, but its not like you bothered to show up so they took it as a sign that you were on board with their desires to enslave you.

> while you watched the stupid bowl, and this man in tights grab ass with another man in tights and you stood and cheered for the man with a toy ball run from the other men....  they took away your rights to assemble.

> while you stand in lines bitching about this 6ft distance.  they are busy taking away the economic base of this country and getting people use to prison rules.

> when will you get your head into the fight?  when they arrest your neighbors neighbor?  when they arrest your neighbor?  or when they come to arrest you?   cause each day these thin blue line soldiers have been transforming themselves into standing military's and networking and speeding and you stood and waved at them just as the kids in Baghdad did...... and now they are occupied and weaponless.

 

your camo may as well be blaze orange.  cause it does not matter anymore.

 

 

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Nothing wrong with a Good flannel and jeans. Lol Are we going to have a Patch or some other form of member identifier? 

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11 minutes ago, ZombiesAteMyPoo said:

Nothing wrong with a Good flannel and jeans. Lol Are we going to have a Patch or some other form of member identifier? 

Question is why would you want one

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1 minute ago, Megatron said:

Question is why would you want one

Why would I want members of a militia to have Something easily identifiable? Whether it be a patch, hat, fluorescent green combat boots.. I guess for the same reason we don’t wear the same uniforms as our enemy. 

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34 minutes ago, ZombiesAteMyPoo said:

Why would I want members of a militia to have Something easily identifiable? Whether it be a patch, hat, fluorescent green combat boots.. I guess for the same reason we don’t wear the same uniforms as our enemy. 

 

I could see if you had a 1.1 million man army but under 20 people you should be able to know who is who.  

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5 minutes ago, Megatron said:

 

I could see if you had a 1.1 million man army but under 20 people you should be able to know who is who.  

Agreed. But just because we know who we are doesn’t mean others will. Especially if 20 people are dressed up identical as standard U.S. Soldiers. 

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More importantly.. If KS ends up with 20 different militias, each with 20 people and all 400 are running around looking identical, pretty confusing. Now let’s assume some of those militia aren’t exactly doing the “patriotic tasks” but are more “doing them”. I’d rather have a mark that says “not with stupid”. Lol 

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There will be patch identifiers, as the law of war dictates that combatant forces must legally be distinguishable. The tech for thermal/flir has been around for decades, they teach how to mask your heat in AIT. 

 

We wont go tacti-tard and have patches on every inch of velcro. On the service tape we will denote that we are militia, run the US flag, and possibly a green subdued unit patch. We havent really talked about patches yet. First will be getting the people who want to get active formed up and start getting eceryone in sync as far as gear ( no multiple types of uniform, everyone has proper footware, standardised gear, etc.) before we go for patches. 

 

 

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Sounds like a plan. 
 

Tacti-tard. Lol Hell we can run around looking like nascars as long as they’re sponsoring. 😂🤣 

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22 hours ago, Ideological Gambler said:

There will be patch identifiers, as the law of war dictates that combatant forces must legally be distinguishable. The tech for thermal/flir has been around for decades, they teach how to mask your heat in AIT. 

 

We wont go tacti-tard and have patches on every inch of velcro. On the service tape we will denote that we are militia, run the US flag, and possibly a green subdued unit patch. We havent really talked about patches yet. First will be getting the people who want to get active formed up and start getting eceryone in sync as far as gear ( no multiple types of uniform, everyone has proper footware, standardised gear, etc.) before we go for patches. 

 

 

what's the goal?...   in all honesty.  you just need to not look like a coproach, or a "government" mercenary (solider)..   likely your battle rattle will be jipsey anyways and not tax theft funded.  so work jeans and a hoodie and a ball cap.  you kinda whipped off the technology thing like you are playing paintball.   you don't get it.  YOU ARE NOT HIDING!... you are NOT going to win if you do not adopt asymmetric warfare.  but even then.  what do you think they spent the last 25 yrs doing in Iraq, Afganashithole, Africa, and Mexico.  they have been studying asymmetric warfare, drug Lord's, cartels, and have gotten rid of the stones for your slings.      the mere fact of being on this website has already put you in a box to be tracked.  who do you think you are going up against?    you couldn't make a call and get 20guys in 20minuets.  they can call you a criminal and get every coproach in five states after you in 5 minuets plus with their blue line supporters and useful idiots who follow orders there is no where for you to go to ground to.   you have to realize this?..  right?...   you understand that your camo has to be ubiquitous, you have to blend in with the zombie horde or else you won't make it two blocks.  there is no hiding anymore until you stop their technology..  

 

“Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.”

“...only those who have the will and the power to shoot down their fellow men, are the real rulers in this, as in all other (so-called) civilized countries; for by no others will civilized men be robbed, or enslaved.”
― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority

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4 hours ago, GearBolt Tech said:

what's the goal?...   in all honesty.  you just need to not look like a coproach, or a "government" mercenary (solider)..   likely your battle rattle will be jipsey anyways and not tax theft funded.  so work jeans and a hoodie and a ball cap.  you kinda whipped off the technology thing like you are playing paintball.   you don't get it.  YOU ARE NOT HIDING!... you are NOT going to win if you do not adopt asymmetric warfare.  but even then.  what do you think they spent the last 25 yrs doing in Iraq, Afganashithole, Africa, and Mexico.  they have been studying asymmetric warfare, drug Lord's, cartels, and have gotten rid of the stones for your slings.      the mere fact of being on this website has already put you in a box to be tracked.  who do you think you are going up against?    you couldn't make a call and get 20guys in 20minuets.  they can call you a criminal and get every coproach in five states after you in 5 minuets plus with their blue line supporters and useful idiots who follow orders there is no where for you to go to ground to.   you have to realize this?..  right?...   you understand that your camo has to be ubiquitous, you have to blend in with the zombie horde or else you won't make it two blocks.  there is no hiding anymore until you stop their technology..  

 

“Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.”

“...only those who have the will and the power to shoot down their fellow men, are the real rulers in this, as in all other (so-called) civilized countries; for by no others will civilized men be robbed, or enslaved.”
― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority

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With all do respect i believed that would be obvious. No unit I have seen in the Us follows standard battle order and outdated warfare. It is literally everywhere to use asymmetrical and irregular warfare ( i can teach you the difference if needed). Cammo isnt for iding in mommys basement or in a work cubicle, or it would look like stacks of papers and spilled coffee.

 

Everyone must keep their normal clothing, and it is common sense to use the best equipment/tactic for the job. The camo is for in field operations and during training. The areas where it is useful.

 

While you are right on being on this site opens you to being monitered, the fact that you have internet means you are being watched any way. VPNs, not giving out too much info, etc. The basics of online security cover this and while no where near fool proof, say goodbye to all internet and internet capable devices if you want to cut that off. 

 

You dont have to explain how the hadjis conduct war, i have seen first hand how they fight and how they get around various surveillance set ups. Applying the knowledge to new situations is what is important. 

 

 

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