Was this the correct way to stand up to a tyrant in Virginia?

[DawyneB 184]

Just wondering how others here may have handled this if different or not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMOcuz74AcA

 

 

[RevRifleman 1,512]

I don't think it is necessary to go outside of peoples homes unless they are purposely evading the public.  He has an office... go there if you have a problem. 

 

No laws were broken.  However, the optics are not good.  If anything it will just serve to embolden Mr. Levine and increase his demand for gun laws and confiscation.  He has a long track record of scooting around the nation to push progressive agendas.  One look at his wiki gives you an idea of what kind of a person he is.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Levine_(politician)

[wquon 194]

with the state that VA is in, I would choose for my county to become part of WV. they have already invited all the 2A counties. they are one of only 2 or 3 states that ALL their counties are red. start the balkanization process, many counties & states are on the cusp of doing it themselves.

there's also a couple compacts out there that would form union against unconstitutional acts of the federal government.

 

these things are the best chances we have to take back this country peacefully (for the most part).

[DawyneB 184]

49 minutes ago, RevRifleman said:

I don't think it is necessary to go outside of peoples homes unless they are purposely evading the public.  He has an office... go there if you have a problem. 

 

No laws were broken.  However, the optics are not good.  If anything it will just serve to embolden Mr. Levine and increase his demand for gun laws and confiscation.  He has a long track record of scooting around the nation to push progressive agendas.  One look at his wiki gives you an idea of what kind of a person he is.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Levine_(politician)

I do agree. If anything what this person did was all but guarantee some form of the gun grab bill will try and be passed if Mr. Levine or anyone that has similar views has any say in the matter. A person simply just does not stand outside someone's personal home armed with anything. At best the police will be called at worst said person might be shot for appearing to be a threat even if their motives are pure. 

[LetFreedomRing 5,753]

Just so everyone knows, we don't allow doxxing on this site ( posting of other peoples identities, addresses or personal phone numbers without their express permission ).  No I don't think this is an acceptable way to protest. 

[DawyneB 184]

My apologies this wont happen again on my part.

[Doug1943 1,614]

The guy who did this was either a psycho, a deep-cover agent of the Left, or so terminally stupid that he ought be put in a care home.

This sort of thing generates huge energy on the Left.  When anti-Fa does this to one of our guys, how do we react?  Are we frightened? Hell no, we redouble our committment to seeing anti-Fa .... peacefully defeated. Or defeated. The Left, same-same.

 

The problem with guns is that they give marginal personalities, people who have grave doubts about their own adequacy to meeting the challenges of life (probably justified doubts) a kind of Hollywood prop, to compensate for their personal deficiencies.  There ought to be an island where they can all go live and play Rambo. They're a big handicap to our side.

 

Occasionally these people turn up on the Left as well: pretend Che Guevaras.  But the unfairness of life means that the patriots get more than their share of these sad cases.

[DawyneB 184]

19 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

The guy who did this was either a psycho, a deep-cover agent of the Left, or so terminally stupid that he ought be put in a care home.

This sort of thing generates huge energy on the Left.  When anti-Fa does this to one of our guys, how do we react?  Are we frightened? Hell no, we redouble our committment to seeing anti-Fa .... peacefully defeated. Or defeated. The Left, same-same.

 

The problem with guns is that they give marginal personalities, people who have grave doubts about their own adequacy to meeting the challenges of life (probably justified doubts) a kind of Hollywood prop, to compensate for their personal deficiencies.  There ought to be an island where they can all go live and play Rambo. They're a big handicap to our side.

 

Occasionally these people turn up on the Left as well: pretend Che Guevaras.  But the unfairness of life means that the patriots get more than their share of these sad cases.

Sadly you are right on all points. After hearing how this guy described what happened the way he did it wouldn't be far fetched to imagine he paid this individual to do what they did.

[LetFreedomRing 5,753]

1 hour ago, DawyneB said:

My apologies this wont happen again on my part.

 

No apology needed for the post you didn't do anything wrong.  G&G was just reporting on it.  I meant the guy that did the actual protesting outside his home is not acceptable.  If we are outraged by the left bothering people having dinner in public and outside their homes we shouldn't be doing it to them either.  Outside the local government seat or state capitol is another thing completely different and is acceptable.    

[Doug1943 1,614]

It wouldn't be the first time ... Hoax Hate Crimes have become a cottage industry, since demand exceeds supply.

In a nation of 350 million people there  is going to be several hundred thousand psychos .  Some of them will seize on

this or that variety of politics to express their madness through ... usually a variety that is seen by most people as 'extreme'.

Unfortunately, old-fashioned patriotism and common sense is now seen that way.

 

We must always remember that John F Kennedy was murdered by a former member of the Young Peoples Socialist League,  who photographed himself, before the assassination, holding his rifle and a copy of The Militant, the newspaper of the Socialist Workers Party.  (I believe but don't know for sure that the other paper he is holding is the Daily Worker, newspaper of the Communist Party).  Neither of those organizations advocated assassination. 

 

We should also remember that Robert Kennedy was assassinated by a Palestinian nationalist.  And that the leaders of the  socialist Peoples Temple in California (late 70s), which was very popular with Bay Area Democratic Politicians since they could mobilize hundreds of campaign workers for leftwing candidates, murdered a Congressman and several of his aides, and then murdered all of their  own members, and then killed themselves -- 900 people in all.  So if the ideas of patriotism are supposed to inspire  insane killers, then so also do the ideas of socialism.  In reality, these ideas are seized upon by mentally ill people and used to rationalize their madness.

 

[Patriot1069 70]

I don’t agree with what the nut with the gun did.  With that being said, I want to speak on the delegates speech.  He speaks about how he has an office and people can talk to him there or protest there or call him there but not at his home.  If he and his party pass the red flag laws or enforce any ban that should get passed, where will the enforcers go with their guns drawn?  He clearly did not like the fact that anyone at anytime could just show up on his doorstep and intimidate, or worse, him.  What makes him think that any citizen would not feel the same way if it happened to them because of a bill he passed?  He also stated that according to the guys manifesto, the guy would use his weapon if he could not beat the delegate by convincing him, vote, or courts.  If I’m not wrong, that is what we all do now, we try to convince, vote them out, or fight the law in the courts.  It is only by revolt that the people use guns to unseat a  tyrant.   We use revolution or civil war only as a last resort to unseating tyrants as we have done in the wars we have fought on our soil. The speech is a natural progression that our country used the past.  As any tyrant, he was upset because someone called him out on his tyranny and showed the fear any tyrant would have at the thought of or sight of the people coming to depose him.  No I do not agree with what the man with the gun did but between that and the speech, it was a true depiction of what the tyrants can expect when the people of this country say enough is enough and it’s time to take our country back.  If it would ever happen, the victor writes the history so that man could either be a hero or some nut job with a gun.

Edited February 21 by Patriot1069

[Doug1943 1,614]

Everything you say is true, but here's the problem: what if the 'tyrant' is the legally elected representative of the majority of voters, and is actually carrying out their will?

 

There is a tendency on the Right to try to fool ourselves that 'we are the people' and that, somehow, these Democrats who are getting elected, and the laws they are proposing, are not the manifestations of majority will.

 

The peculiarities of the American constitution mean that we got a President who represents us, but who got a minority of the popular vote. This may be a good arrangement -- if it works for us we'll think it is, if it works against us we would not think that way --- but it won't last forever.

 

The trend in the USA is to the left.  The Left captured the educational system some time ago, and we're seeing the results.

 

I've been, for a project of my own, collecting information on the Schools/Departments of Education of American universities.  These are the people who train our teachers.  In almost every single one I've seen so far, and I've looked at several dozen, most of the professors have an open, strong, committment to 'social justice' -- i.e. they are very definitely on the Left.  And you can bet that the young people they teach for four years, most of them, will absorb this attitude: something is deeply wrong with America and needs to be changed, so vote for liberals and progressives, to be fair;

 

We won't reverse this. Most Republican Senators and Congressmen are not really even aware of it.

 

So generational demographics, AND ethnic demographics, are against us.

 

What to do?  Well, here's what not to do: immediately drop any vague fantasy of some sort of armed revolt.  In this country, you would be revolting against a majority, against a legally-elected government, and -- although I can picture some turmoil, some resignations, some firings -- most policemen and most military people will remain loyal to the legally elected government. So even if you wanted to see an armed uprising against a legally-elected majority-supported government, it would be defeated. A bunch of middle-aged men with their AR15s wil NOT defeat the 82nd Airborne.  And forget the ridiculous Che Guvara fantasies as well.  If you're representing a disenfranchised majority, especially against a foreign intruder, you've got a chance. Not otherwise.

 

There is an answer to the dilemma, but at the moment it seems so far-fetched that noone can consider it seriously. 

 

So let's just leave it at this: we've got to keep fighting to keep the Left out of power for as long as we can, and organize, organize, organize. 

 

Build the militia movement, expand it, work to integrate it with the community, to build layer upon layer of very close supporters, close supporters, supporters, distant supporters, friendly neutrals, neutrals, mildly skeptical neutrals.   This is a political task, and involves learning how to do good PR, to become part of the community, to engage in various sorts of community support work whenever possble.  Above all, be patient, and avoid and repel provocateurs, who will try to goad us into doing something stupid, either deliberately, or because they are stupid/unstable themselves.

 

Then wait on events, the only things that can really alter mass consciousness quickly.