Finally - Answers regarding C-19 & Lockdowns. Watch ALL of this and share.

[Raintown 20]

This forum is an hour and 10 minutes long.  It supports my feelings regarding our economy and the shutdown, testing and comparisons to the annual flu.  PLEASE don't make any comments unless you have watched (and digested) the complete video. 

 

 

[Todd A. Slee 1,466]

This sounds like reasonable assertions based upon sound knowledge, experience and statistics, not the generalities, theories, false assumptions and scare tactics that Fuhrer Fauci and Covid Crew are making.

     Incidentally, what they're doing is the same thing many government investigators are doing: discarding sound techniques, conjuring up reasons to investigate select people, and making conclusions via logical fallacies.

[Doug1943 1,614]

I couldn't find a link to specific video on the Original Post.

[Raintown 20]

Doug, 

 

The doctor is Dr. Dan Ericksen.  If you Google him, you can find links.  Oddly (or not), YouTube has removed these videos - from what I'm hearing. 

[Douglas 151]

I already know all this. We need to organize and do something. 

[J SkriptXXIII 18]

To be real, I didnt watch the full video, but hear me out, I did watch most after I watched a video about these two saying, most of what they said is crap, so I wanted my own opinion on it and yes its astounding how inaccurate a lot of what they say is, like it not being nearly as deadly or infectious as the annual flu, there are 30k deaths in america from the flu a year and we have already seen these numbers in 3 months, with a lockdown, with social distancing, and it was after the golden point of the virus which takes place Dec threw Feb (atleast here in FL) we havnt even seen how infectious it is, its literally impossible to say because of it being novel, to say a mortality rate less than 1% is just noneducational, 25k dead in United Kingdom and 1000 recovered, w 170k current cases, 25 times 6 and you get 150, w each 25 you add, you take 1 so take away 6, 6000 ppl out of 150k thats not 6k dying thats 6k surviving and thats w the current numbers going how they have been. im not good at math, so my way of thinking 6 out of 100 is 6% 50 would be 3% so 150 would be 9% right? thats a 9% survival rate in the United kingdom w 3 million cases internationally, everywhere from Iceland to Sri Lanka to Peru, this is such a plannedemic it driving me insane how obvious it is. I couldnt even get threw the video because it was making me mad, atleast he said in California and In New York state, like cmon im a 23 yr old drop out and i did the math on 1 hand and he is saying its like the flu? were 67k dead thats over half the yearly deaths in less than half the time, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing im saying this is all planned and there is a bigger picture at hand right now and thats what we should be looking at. locking down brings economic collapse and still doesnt stop the virus so let see if unlocking will help, its truly laughable. Were caught in a double edged sword leading to the NWO, the one world currency and government, total population control on a mass scale never seen in history, the time to stand and fight is now, I understand peaceful protests but they are no longer working, they want us to peacefully protest because it keeps us busy and out of their way, they have already thrown there first punch and 67k are dead because of it and thats just the start, its time for us to swing, for the first time in centuries, you are currently living in the revolution, you are seeing the making of truly historic moment that will be talked about for a thousand years, now will be the one in history that stood like our forefathers, against all odds an unbeatable force, to overcome and take back your true freedom, or will you be the one the government made to be a pariah, just another fraction in their lies that means nothing but your certain death, I was born for this world, God told me what i wanted to know all i had to do is ask, and he showed me all the signs for the past 10 yrs leading me to this page and this moment, Im meant to be here and the world I have in mind, the world I desperately want to live in is the the world god put in my head, so i could spread my idea in the new world and i can band together w  the remaining strong and rebuild this world into what it needs to be. thank you if you read this far

[Doug1943 1,614]

8 hours ago, Raintown said:

Doug, 

 

The doctor is Dr. Dan Ericksen.  If you Google him, you can find links.  Oddly (or not), YouTube has removed these videos - from what I'm hearing. 

Thank  you.

[Douglas 151]

I did see him on YouTube before they removed him.

[Douglas 151]

The numbers of deaths has been compromised.  In New York for instance, people are dying from the seasonal flu, cancer, and diabetes, but doctors and funeral directors are putting down Corona virus on the death certificates. 

[Doug1943 1,614]

3 hours ago, Douglas said:

The numbers of deaths has been compromised.  In New York for instance, people are dying from the seasonal flu, cancer, and diabetes, but doctors and funeral directors are putting down Corona virus on the death certificates. 

How do you know this?  It may be true  ... and it may be true that people are dying of the virus  and it's beimg recorded as pneumonia or something else.  But what are your information sources?

[Douglas 151]

I heard several people talking about this.  Some were family members of people who died. Some were nurses.  And some were doctors.  I even heard a funeral director talk about this.

[Doug1943 1,614]

There is a saying, "Data is not the plural of anecdote".  I've always been suspicious of people who use this saying ... often what they're doing, in my experience, is trying to make you deny the evidence of your own eyes, in favor of some supposedly-scientific study by academics, who turn out to be left-wing ideologues. 

 

However, taken by itself, it's true.   And if some conspiracy is at work in America, is it also at work in every other country in the world? In Italy, things were so bad that the medical system had to actually choose who got treated -- they had to  simply refuse treatment to some patients who were so ill that they were probably going to die anyway.  (This will probably result in the defeat of the ruling conservative coalition in the next election by the way, since its supporters were older people, who were hit hardest by the government's initial incompetence.)

 

I don't think there is anything we know for sure about this virus.  For whatever reason, we keep getting contradictory information and advice: how lethal is it, what is the infection rate ("R-zero"), can it re-infect someone, how dangerous is it for younger people without a pre-existing condition, how effective are masks?

 

I have read ontradictory reports about Remdesivir's effectiveness ( https://www.france24.com/en/20200501-covid-19-after-conflicting-studies-effectiveness-of-remdesivir-still-i n-question ),   and contradictory assessments of the minimum-lockdown approach being followed by the Swedes. (And note: if Trump had proposed 'the Swedish approach' -- absolute minimum government coercion, absolute minimum 'social distancing' -- he would have been crucified by the Left. But when their Swedish comrades do exactly that ... silence.  )

 

This is not the result of some sort of conspiracy. It's the result of objective reality, a combination of clever old Mother Nature -- maybe helped along by a biowarfare lab -- and the usual reality of human imperfection, especially where governments are concerned.

 

In a competitive market, a firm which screws up consistently will get put out of business by its customers who will switch to a competitor. But governments have no competitor.  They can lie us into a war which will supposedly be over in a few months, with the natives of the conquered country throwing roses under the boots of our soldiers as we stage a victory march through their capital city.  When the reality turns into civil war among that country's tribes, with each tribe pausing in killing the others just long enough to kil us ... the government doesn't go out of business. Maybe the more ardent champions of that war lose an election to the less ardent champions ... who then continue the same policy. 

 

It makes you want to "arrest the government and try them for treason".  But ... we've got to keep our cool, not embrace any unproven theories, not fall into the conspiracy theory diversion -- reality is bad enough!!! -- not allow provocateurs to goad us into doing anything stupid ... and patiently build our strength.

 

What IS true about this virus is that it has shattered the complacent, 'everything will be okay, tomorrow will be like today', the-government-will-handle-it-they-know-what-they're-doing, attitude.  The 'Preppers' were proved right. And the militia movement are the ultimate Preppers.

 

So right now, every militia unit should have their 'Propaganda Officer' -- and if there isn't one there should be -- organizing letters to the local paper, phone-ins to radio talk shows, comments on widely-read local blogs -- urging people to get in touch , to check out the local militia, to get ready to come to a public meeting when these are possible again.

 

And when they are possible again, there should be public meetings: they don't even have to be 'about' the militia: a meeting on "Preparing for Next Time" -- what to stock up on, where to get it, what to avoid -- just standard prepper wisdom -- would be an excellent start.  Then follow up with a militia-sponsored Fourth of July barbeque, and/or a public meeting to answer questions about the militia. 

 

This opportunity will not last forever. People will tend to fall back into their default "everything will be okay" attitude.  Mr Trump's performance during this crisis may give the next election to the Left, and then we will have to go on the defensive.  So we ought to move NOW.

[Douglas 151]

Doug 1943,  I read your long reply.  I respect you but, there is so much evidence against certain Democrat politicians that you that you know they are guilty.  If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's probably a duck! 

  The world has always followed America.  Even our enemies follow us. The virus is real, and it is a natural virus, the Corona virus, that has been tweaked.  America first worked on it, the name being Covid 19. It was called this because it was supposed to be ready by 2019. But some scientists told our government that working on it was way to dangerous.  The government shut it down, but certain Democrats handed it off to China to finish it, and they did in Wuhan.