Are we being lured into Civil War?

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/19/2020 at 4:20 PM, C34 said:

My belief is voting and being nice will not work. I lost faith in the American people when there was no uproar when it was shown Planned Parenthood was harvesting baby body parts and selling them.

 

 

There was HUGE uproar over that!! You didn't see any of it? Misleadia tries it's best to insure that. Here's another example:

 

waaay back when plannedemic was the #1 priority and various States were having lockdown protests, did you hear about ours n WI? MI was first, and they planned to tie up traffic, driving around their State Capitol. I'll assume you saw that reported. Ours was planned by a non-political group, as just a gathering on the lawn at the State Capitol building. We had at least as many cars driving around our Capitol building as MI did. I wish I could post pics from my phone onto the net, all attempts so far have failed, the creativity of these people was astounding! All sorts of vehicles all decked out like floats in a parade. This wasn't spur of the moment, serious effort went into this. We had 5,000 on the lawn and surroundings at the main event, minimum. We also had people walking on the sidewalk just outside the circle where cars cars drove around the Capitol building. 

 

This was reported as "about 1,500, with some disagreeing." helicopters overhead when we were at peak. None of that footage ever saw the light of day. This is a concerted effort to keep you from seeing how powerful our side is. Same with the uproar you never noticed. There were two people at this protest there to disagree, and I spoke at length with both of them. One was antifa, all by himself. 6'4" #320, 18 y.o. Not a total jackass, reasonably intelligent, mainly just needs a Father. He counted 200 people in one area of the sidewalk right by the corner where he was standing. Clearly his bias is against us. Going by his headcount, I know we had more than 2,000 people walking on the sidewalk, within earshot of the main event. 

 

We had 10,000 people there as a conservative estimate, and a guillotine. It was a perfect event like the 2A gun protest in VA, 1/20/20. No arrests, no violence, everyone left early, we cleaned up after ourselves and left the place spotless. Don't fall for the lies of the misleadia! Also, listen to what POTUS says about abortion. He doesn't get everything right but man he understand that issue. Again, ignore what news says he said, go to what he said. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 5/30/2020 at 3:35 PM, Doug1943 said:

 

I don't know whether the Russians hacked the DNC, or whether it was an inside job.

I'm willing to believe it was the Russians

 

 

 

Yet another VERY important issue! It is 100% known and proven that this was not in any way "hacked," meaning done online. It was done with a physical device, handled manually, on site. This is proven based on transmission speed of the data. 

 

What this means is the whole "Russia Russia Russia" narrative was false, from square one. Further, it is 100% proven, factually, that everyone involved in prosecuting that lie knew this from day 1. Barr should've had this settled via Court record by now. Since he hasn't I fully expect he won't. I sincerely hope I'm wrong. 

 

I'm not sure there's enough evidence to prove this next item in a Court of law, but we know it was Seth Rich who got this data from the DNC. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 5/30/2020 at 3:55 PM, serpent88 said:

Remember to have some trap shot rounds handy, very effective vs drones.

Recently I saw a review of shotgun rounds designed specifically to take down rounds. They're complete junk. They look very clever, with weights and string to wrap around the drone, interfere with the propellers and take it down. About $7 each. Don't work at all per the reviewer and demonstration. I'm not sure how "trap rounds" compare to birdshot, but tried and true is the ticket. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/23/2020 at 10:23 AM, Crispus Attucks said:

 

I'm seeing also that they are targeting Andrew Jackson statues. Jackson was the most bad-a55 of all the presidents and by waging war against central banks ensured prosperity for the country for some time. 

Interesting that both current major political parties were formed around the same concept: fight the formation of a central bank. Andrew Jackson won, Thomas Jefferson lost. 

 

Jackson was interviewed shortly before he died and was asked if he had any regrets. He said there was only one, that he hadn't personally killed some specific individuals. Today "badass" is seen as pathetic and desperate by our youth. This is deliberate manipulation, and it's taken over 100 years to achieve this level of the pussification of the US. 

 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/23/2020 at 10:25 AM, TIMK1975 said:

Basically targeting any one who is white as they must be racist and evil. 

Especially Jesus! And the virgin Mary. Although afaik, that hasn't actually happened yet. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/23/2020 at 10:31 AM, GLCsector3295 said:

This is a nice sentiment, the problem is,  the civil war, took place between two opposing forces that were organized and had standing armies. 

 

So if one thinks they can just willy nilly  bring up this ex parte of 1866  to any democrat legislator , laugh in their face and go, AH HA GOTCHA, YOU'RE OUT OF HERE !  Good luck, because now you have to get the local police to stop giving you a beating long enough to read it, let alone care, and then you will have to hire a lawyer and take it to court, and by the time one gets to that point, everyone will of forgotten wtf is going on and why anyone cared in the first place.

Not even close to true. 1,500 lawsuits were filed against local and State governments before Memorial Day, meaning they were all about plannedemic. We should all be finding out how many are class action that we can sign onto. 40+ Governors are guilty of mass murder, to the amount of 110,000 +. King George never engaged in this level of tyranny, denying medicine to sick people. Many other crimes too, with more tacked on from plannedriots. Don't forget about the civil lawsuits! We can sue Governors for their own wealth. We should have their every act of tyranny covered via class action, written broadly enough that everyone affected in the State can sign on. I don't think that would require 1,500. 

 

As I already posted, one of us will not take that law from 1866, even if it is written as posted, and enforce it. 20,000 of us at each State Capitol all at the same time would've insured nobody got hurt, anytime from 3/31 - 5/22. Now? Maybe a little different with everyone at the ready and on edge. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

19 hours ago, Sgt. Bulldog said:

It looks to me that people are running scared and doing anything they can to try to please the BLM and Antifa crowds. Just look at the big NASCAR noose hoax. One mixed race driver claiming to be African American had everyone kissing his ass and falling in line so not to offend him. They are trying to erase history and now starting to attack your religious beliefs. They have fired the proverbial first shot, how we respond will determine the course our future takes. The time to push back has arrived. BLM and ANTIFA coming to a town near you be ready!

"Proverbial?"  No. the LITERAL first shots were fired, weeks ago. How many dead? How many wounded? How many businesses destroyed? How much in property damage? 

[Razor Ramone 55]

12 hours ago, Doug1943 said:

Yes ... but ... it's not a Black vs white thing. The real driving force behind the move to destroy our history began forty years ago, with Howard Zinn ... it's a white Left thing, really.

 

The human face are hairless, tailless apes. We can be a very nasty species -- call it "Original Sin" if you like.  Every single nation and tribe on earth has a terrible history, if we actually knew it. And each one of us, regardless of our race, has ancestors who were killers and enslavers, and others who were killed and enslaved.

 

What's going on was predicted by George Orwell back in 1948:" He who controls the past, controls the future."

Howard Zinn did not originate it. It goes back further. The anti-white thing goes to the 1930's at least. 1913-1935 covered all bases. From there it's just been a question of gaining influence. We actually have a federal anti-communism law on the books, it's just never been enforced. 

 

Orwellian newspeak is fully in effect. We cannot allow them to control the language; there too, we are already on the defensive. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

11 hours ago, Crispus Attucks said:

@ TIMK1975   and @Doug1943

 

Tim is certainly right to be pissed off!  Let's not take that away from him! 

 

That said, and too everyone here, what's going on right now is designed to Divide us AND Conquer us. The white AND black guys and gals in power that are allowing this are far more dangerous than the white AND black kids in the streets doing this dumb shit. That's because if they get in power riding on this tidal wave of stupidity, the real pain is going to start! They'll have their hands on the levers of power and begin to legislate away our ability to live!!!! 

 

Everybody needs to remember that the most dangerous thing on the planet is "the state". In other words, governments. It's governments that have killed way more people than anything else since 1900! The last century was THE BLOODIEST in history and the bulk of that was caused by various 'isms. One in particular did the most.... Socialism/Communism. 

 

Anyone remember the Holodomor? When Stalin starved as many as 7 million people in Ukraine. Why don't they teach that in school? How about The Great Leap Forward which killed upwards of 45 million by itself?  And I could go all day with the lists of these kinds of things. But for fun I'll add...

 

 

 

And if you need a reminder of how racists these a55holes are, you might be surprised to find they don't even like many white people. 

 

From Engels...

 

 

This is the same Engels that referred to Slavs as "racial trash". 

 

So believe me when I say I'm pissed, but it's because we've been made ignorant, brutish, and in-civil, then sold a lie. And our leaders know it because they are complicit in this self destruction.  

 

The American Republic IS the right way. And worthy of defense. 

 

 

 

 

To your main point: 

 

we have a generation that has been taught that Christianity killed more than communism ever did. 

 

This stark fact unites many of the disparate comments being made by many great people here. 

[Doug1943 1,614]

Please elaborate.  The dominant force on the Left back in the 1930s was the CPUSA, which before 1936 had some pretty crazy politics.

One of their positions, which resulted from mechanically applying Russian categories to America, was that Blacks were an oppressed nation, and should be allowed to exercise the right of self-determination within those areas where they were a majority -- they actually had a map of prposed Negro nation, consisting of all those counties in the South where Blacks were a majority.  They got significant support within the Black community, not for this nutty idea, but for the work they did defending Black people under attack ... for example, the Scottsboro Boys.

[Doug1943 1,614]

Yes,  Marx and Engels had all the prejudices of their time. Marx didn't like his sleazy son-in-law, Ferdinand LaSalle, and referred to him, in a letter, as a "Jewish n****r."  But by the standards of the time, they weren't racists.  They also unconsciously had German chauvinist prejudices, with respect to the smaller (white) nations of Europe, even though they were basically internationalists.

[GLCsector3295 207]

15 minutes ago, Razor Ramone said:

Not even close to true. 1,500 lawsuits were filed against local and State governments before Memorial Day, meaning they were all about plannedemic. We should all be finding out how many are class action that we can sign onto. 40+ Governors are guilty of mass murder, to the amount of 110,000 +. King George never engaged in this level of tyranny, denying medicine to sick people. Many other crimes too, with more tacked on from plannedriots. Don't forget about the civil lawsuits! We can sue Governors for their own wealth. We should have their every act of tyranny covered via class action, written broadly enough that everyone affected in the State can sign on. I don't think that would require 1,500. 

 

As I already posted, one of us will not take that law from 1866, even if it is written as posted, and enforce it. 20,000 of us at each State Capitol all at the same time would've insured nobody got hurt, anytime from 3/31 - 5/22. Now? Maybe a little different with everyone at the ready and on edge. 

 I am actually 100% right, I haven't been wrong about anything ever. 

 

1,500 lawsuits and nothing was done. or it was one person filing 1,500 bs lawsuits,  But good news, anyone can be indicted  ; even a ham sandwich. Doesn't mean ya got a snow balls chance in hell to win the case.  Trying to sue and get a conviction of a governor is a pipe dream, the same for getting a impeachment AND a conviction of a president.  But I mean a class action lawsuit , is no skin off my back at all, I look forward to seeing your website where you spent the time and money to form for people to join, and have hired a lawyer on at least a partial retainer until everyone else pitches in.

 

So the fact is either YOU Personally, can get the ball rolling on this legal pipe dream an talk to a lawyer , make a website and etc, or keep demanding that someone some where does it. and either way the same outcome of absolutely nothing is going to happen.   

 

One thing that does disgrace a politician is dead to rights pictures and texts,  case in point , Anthony Weiner  and his sex pics, so out of your 40 governors , i suppose if you pay someone to hack their phones and emails an etc, you might stand a better chance of finding something terrible that they will leave office on their own, or be forced to by public outcry.

 

~ Just a pessimist that doesn't buy into pipe dreams.~

[Razor Ramone 55]

11 hours ago, TIMK1975 said:

So true... I never understood How the Socialist/Communist followers could let themselves be fooled as they have been. Neither of those government institutions have succeeded in making the lives of their people better. Hell — the Chinese were poor as dirt until they embraced a capitalist style of business...as for the communists rallying around their political party - just remember how Russia was in the 70’s and 80’s... long lines for very few supplies EXCEPT the communist leadership. Think Capitalism is bad and an uneven distribution of wealth— the others are worse by far. 

To understand this it's really simple: "but that wasn't REAL communism!" That's their claim.

 

In a textbook fashion, this is true. Real facts prove that the uptopia isn't just elusive, but unattainable. (Except perhaps in small groups) Communism always leads to starvation. As Marx designed it, socialism is merely a stepping stone towards communism. 

 

CHAZ is (was?) a good illustration of this, as are AOC's suggested fantasies which I can't dignify with the label "economic plans."

[Razor Ramone 55]

27 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

Please elaborate.  The dominant force on the Left back in the 1930s was the CPUSA, which before 1936 had some pretty crazy politics.

One of their positions, which resulted from mechanically applying Russian categories to America, was that Blacks were an oppressed nation, and should be allowed to exercise the right of self-determination within those areas where they were a majority -- they actually had a map of prposed Negro nation, consisting of all those counties in the South where Blacks were a majority.  They got significant support within the Black community, not for this nutty idea, but for the work they did defending Black people under attack ... for example, the Scottsboro Boys.

We have been exposed to different aspects of history, you and I. This is good to compare notes, and bring it out into the daylight in front of whoever wants to read it! 

 

I can't speak to how "dominant" any of this was, but the Frankfurt School had made very significant inroads into public education before I ever got there in 1969. I don't think this was instead of Soviet interference, but alongside it. I never noticed what it was, and my Dad, a now retired HS teacher, misidentified it as objecting to "the formality." No, it was the bs that was the problem. I only stumbled across this philosophical school in recent years. At about the same time the Kalergi plan was drawn up, and while I can't find an online reference to it that doesn't try to discredit it as non-existent, we can see that it is very much in effect and plannedriots are merely trying to seal that deal. You and I both hope that effort backfires, big time. The Kalergi plan is basically a deliberate plan to infiltrate white controlled areas and make us the minority. The inevitable success of this has been openly crowed about for years now.

 

Since all this was done by leftist whites in the same era, I have to think there was some cooperation among them. Interesting how none of us discover the whole picture, but when we put these pieces together ...

[Razor Ramone 55]

32 minutes ago, GLCsector3295 said:

 I am actually 100% right, I haven't been wrong about anything ever. 

 

1,500 lawsuits and nothing was done. or it was one person filing 1,500 bs lawsuits,  But good news, anyone can be indicted  ; even a ham sandwich. Doesn't mean ya got a snow balls chance in hell to win the case.  Trying to sue and get a conviction of a governor is a pipe dream, the same for getting a impeachment AND a conviction of a president.  But I mean a class action lawsuit , is no skin off my back at all, I look forward to seeing your website where you spent the time and money to form for people to join, and have hired a lawyer on at least a partial retainer until everyone else pitches in.

 

So the fact is either YOU Personally, can get the ball rolling on this legal pipe dream an talk to a lawyer , make a website and etc, or keep demanding that someone some where does it. and either way the same outcome of absolutely nothing is going to happen.   

 

One thing that does disgrace a politician is dead to rights pictures and texts,  case in point , Anthony Weiner  and his sex pics, so out of your 40 governors , i suppose if you pay someone to hack their phones and emails an etc, you might stand a better chance of finding something terrible that they will leave office on their own, or be forced to by public outcry.

 

~ Just a pessimist that doesn't buy into pipe dreams.~

Lawsuits take years to wind their way through Courts, which is why this would only be effective in concert with action from We the People. 

 

Your claim that "nothing was done" is therefore bogus. 

 

Class action lawsuits aren't spread via a website.

 

Pretense that Governors don't have infinite liability, both criminal and civil right now, is not merely "pessimism," it's ignorance.  In the same vein I am ignorant of how to find pending class action lawsuits I might be able to sign onto. It is possible. And somebody knows how.  

 

Pretending that anything right is a pipe dream just isn't healthy, and had our founding Fathers thought that way there never would've been a US. 

[GLCsector3295 207]

2 hours ago, Razor Ramone said:

Lawsuits take years to wind their way through Courts, which is why this would only be effective in concert with action from We the People. 

 

Your claim that "nothing was done" is therefore bogus. 

 

Class action lawsuits aren't spread via a website.

 

Pretense that Governors don't have infinite liability, both criminal and civil right now, is not merely "pessimism," it's ignorance.  In the same vein I am ignorant of how to find pending class action lawsuits I might be able to sign onto. It is possible. And somebody knows how.  

 

Pretending that anything right is a pipe dream just isn't healthy, and had our founding Fathers thought that way there never would've been a US. 

actually you are mistaken again, with your claim of 1,500 lawsuits, one would have to figure those lawsuits were not filed yesterday, meaning , at least 1 of those went to court and got laughed out instantly, it isn't ignorance on my part, merely pessimism to the futility of pretending that there are 1,500 lawsuits floating around, to which you just admitted you can not  or do not know how to find any pending class action law suits, which by the way is super easy to do, you go to your internet search bar, type in a generic search of, Class Action Lawsuit against the state of ( enter said state ) or Class Action Lawsuit against Governor ( insert name )  and it will turn up nothing because it doesn't exist, and if it did, it would have been on the news a long time ago, unless now one is to dive into the loony world of conspiracies that there is a class action lawsuit but some how the left managed to keep it off the internet and out of the news. . an I am not pretending anything is a pipe dream, it just is a cold hard fact of being a pipe dream,  the founding fathers lived in a completely different world than today, for them to try to do what they did then, in the world we live in now, would be beyond impossible. for a lot of reasons. If it was possible, North Korea would be free right now and so would a lot of other tin horn dictatorships , and China.  Not that it isn't worth trying, but in strong hold communist and crazy countries, with out the help of the free world, they don't stand a chance of winning.

 

 

But again it all falls back to you, don't wait for someone to do the work for you, if you really want a class action lawsuit against some governor for the mass crimes you say have been committed then why are you going to wait for something to be done, , lawyers are more than willing to give a 20-30 min free consultation for a possible case.  I mean if it is really that important, it would seem to me you would want to get it done. An if for some reason, you are physically un able to, or what ever your reasons may be, you can still do internet research, and form contacts online to find someone to do the actual foot work, and or research on how to start a petition online, which by the way i'll kick it off for you to make it slightly easier, https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/  ;   

 

though  it is easier to say , i'll be the first to sign, because signing something is a lot easier than actually doing the foot work.  an we all have our reasons for not doing the foot work,  the same reason we do not see any " armed militias " going to the front lines trying to restore law an order, they don't exist, or they are beyond un prepared when they should have been prepared years ago. Well that and democrats want the help. 

[Crispus Attucks 28]

4 hours ago, Razor Ramone said:

Howard Zinn did not originate it. It goes back further. The anti-white thing goes to the 1930's at least. 1913-1935 covered all bases. From there it's just been a question of gaining influence. We actually have a federal anti-communism law on the books, it's just never been enforced. 

 

Orwellian newspeak is fully in effect. We cannot allow them to control the language; there too, we are already on the defensive. 

 I'd wager that the anti-white thing goes back to the mid to late 1700's. 

 

But that's a whole other rabbit hole. 

[Sgt. Bulldog 94]

4 hours ago, Razor Ramone said:

"Proverbial?"  No. the LITERAL first shots were fired, weeks ago. How many dead? How many wounded? How many businesses destroyed? How much in property damage? 

I don’t disagree,for several months people have been shot, wounded, killed and businesses destroyed. But for many of these animals that is business as usual. Just look at any major democratic run city, Chicago is a prime example. What they are doing now is getting more people and more major corporations to bow to there demands and donating to there cause. The noose hoax, which has now been proven, has given them another platform to push there agenda. Now people are starting to wake up to what is actually happening and that was the proverbial shot I was referring too.

[MBR 224]

11 hours ago, Razor Ramone said:

Class action lawsuits aren't spread via a website.

 

Class action lawsuits can be started by a single person who can demonstrate a pattern that affected a number of people, when the case is heard and the suit is won, which is rare then a settlement is agreed to, usually a goldmine for the attorneys involved and a trinket of a payment for the defendants, once settled the plaintiff will be ordered by the courts to submit a list of customers, subscribers ect, to the defense, the defense will send letters to everyone on the list explaining the settlement they are entitled to, if a co-defendant accepts the settlement then they lose all rights to sue the plaintiff on their own and that is the reason companies will take a class action settlement. By doing so they do not have to defend themselves against hundreds, if not thousands of lawsuits using the first successful prosecution as a springboard for their suit, in the end the only real winners of a class action are the company that was sued and the attorneys for both sides, while the co-defendants get a trinket.

 

[MBR 224]

11 hours ago, Razor Ramone said:

 In the same vein I am ignorant of how to find pending class action lawsuits I might be able to sign onto. It is possible. And somebody knows how.  

You don't sign into a class action lawsuit, until it gets settled and won. 

11 hours ago, Razor Ramone said:

 

 

 

[Tim Dewitt 3]

ill weigh in on this conversation.

My thought is jsut this, most of the antifa/globalists that are causing the issues are non-exmil snowflake type.  In the case of Seattle, those people are non mil personnel and they are given weapons just to  make them feel right at home.  

GUARANTEED,...when the copper starts flyin and people start dyin and they see this, with them thinking that they are next, they are all going to run back to mommies basement and go play Nintendo.

Dont get me wrong i like a good 007 golden-eye game on the Nintendo but i dont make it my life.  THESE ARE Millennials were talking about here and the most of them couldn't the there shoes or wipe there baby soft back side if they didnt have an app on there smart phone to show them how,...GET REAL!

I ws talking to a friend of mine last night about this issue, his thought was that these people that "occupy" ,...>>>(((ARE TERRORISTS)))<<<  and should be delt with accordingly.

and to be honest i have to agree.

Ifyou want all this to stop heres the agenda.....

Go find the GLOBALISTS that are giving the orders,.

GATES,...both of them

Clintons,

OH hell why not,.....Pelosi, schill and shumer

and if we can locate SOROS,....yea that would be a good one.

once these people are in some sort of custody, WE THE PEOPLE can press charges on them and send them to jail for the longest of times.  WAR CRIMES, espionage for one, theres more but i jsut cant think straight im so ticked right now.

If ive stepped out of line here expressing my opinion, please someone tell me, honestly im pissed that ive had to give up my life for these communist bastards.

[NebUS75 135]

I agree 100%

[MBR 224]

3 hours ago, Tim Dewitt said:

Go find the GLOBALISTS that are giving the orders,.

GATES,...both of them

Clintons,

OH hell why not,.....Pelosi, schill and shumer

and if we can locate SOROS,....yea that would be a good one.

 

And once you do, then what?

 

[Doug1943 1,614]

Pelosi, Soros, the top Democrats .... are NOT giving AntiFa or BLM orders.

If anyone has any real evidence to the contrary,  please post it.

 

A lot of people on the Right fall into lazy thinking, something like this:  Mr X is bad ... something bad is happening ... Mr X must have caused it.

 

In fact, my guess is that although Pelosi and Soros etc are very glad about the widespread quality of the BLM protests, with all the indoctrinated white youth joining in, and

all the establishment, big corporations, universities, publications, etc etc etc all begging to show their loyalty to BLM ......   all this is very good for them, it reinforces their belief that they will

wipe the floor with Mr Trump and all Republicans in November ... yet and still ... they don't like, to put it mildly, the rioting and looting and burning.

 

What does it gain them? It just pushes middle America away from them. They don't want a violent revolution. They want to be in office, so they can get fat donations from the big corporations whose interests they represent.

 

The Misleadia already have framed a narrative: all the rioting and looting burning is being inspired by white supremacists far Right extremists, who are following the Booglaloo line.

 

Anyway I have a concrete mission for anyone who wants to strike back.  Nothing illegal or violent. It involves the internet and I have to tell you about it within the next day or so: certainly before 6pm Eastern Time. (Which will be  3pm out on the West Coast. You won't have to do anything except, basically, listen in on our enemies and take notes.

 

 

[RayanneKennan 35]

On 4/23/2020 at 8:06 PM, RevRifleman said:

The tyrants must be feeling very confident right now and they must think that they can win either way.

 

I think the tyrants are in a cold panic because Donald Trump is probably going to be reelected. They will do anything to stop that from happening.