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The Socialist Tyrant Government, pushing for power of leadership and driving people to government dependance for control, will continue to excel and gain strength. We were warned when Brezhnev, former Soviet leader, slapped his shoe on the table, during an interview, and stated that Communism would overtake the United States, without firing a shot. It's here, well established and awaiting the Millennium vote for finalizing. We've  been deceived into putting our trust in our elected officials, over the years, to keep us a constitutionally protected republic. Corrupt State Legislators aren't going to bring life back to our constitutional bill of rights that this Country was founded on. The Constitution was given to law, for the people, by the people. It was the citizens of this great Country, to shed blood and die for the freedom and civil liberties of our Constitution. It will be the Patriotic citizens that love our God given rights and Country to keep it in force. Look at the Democrat Governor of Virginia with Republican congressional and senate leadership, that stills gets by with unconstitutional gun law passage. Look at the Democrat States that go overboard and refuse to comply with opening the economy back up, asking for Federal funding, from our tax dollars because of the senseless fear mongering of Liberal media. The ones that fear going back to work or being in public, will be met with real fear when the UN blue hats kick their doors in, popping head shots to the elderly, and shoving syringes in the arms of their children. This is my personal opinion, alone, and I look for no approval or agreement.

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15 hours ago, Spud said:

The Socialist Tyrant Government, pushing for power of leadership and driving people to government dependance for control, will continue to excel and gain strength. We were warned when Brezhnev, former Soviet leader, slapped his shoe on the table, during an interview, and stated that Communism would overtake the United States, without firing a shot. It's here, well established and awaiting the Millennium vote for finalizing. We've  been deceived into putting our trust in our elected officials, over the years, to keep us a constitutionally protected republic. Corrupt State Legislators aren't going to bring life back to our constitutional bill of rights that this Country was founded on. The Constitution was given to law, for the people, by the people. It was the citizens of this great Country, to shed blood and die for the freedom and civil liberties of our Constitution. It will be the Patriotic citizens that love our God given rights and Country to keep it in force. Look at the Democrat Governor of Virginia with Republican congressional and senate leadership, that stills gets by with unconstitutional gun law passage. Look at the Democrat States that go overboard and refuse to comply with opening the economy back up, asking for Federal funding, from our tax dollars because of the senseless fear mongering of Liberal media. The ones that fear going back to work or being in public, will be met with real fear when the UN blue hats kick their doors in, popping head shots to the elderly, and shoving syringes in the arms of their children. This is my personal opinion, alone, and I look for no approval or agreement.

Very well said! I rest my case!

CONVENTION OF STATES

or BUST...literally I believe!

 

 

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The Convention of States is a leftists con job.  The delegates have already been selected and there isn't a single Constitutionalist, Libertarian, or Conservative among them.  They are all die hard communist leaning leftists.  The leaders of this CoS movement have been stopped by reporters more than once and asked about that.  They laughed at the people asking the questions and tell them bluntly they will completely rewrite the Constitution.  They specifically say no more Right to Keep and Bear Arms.  No more Free Speech.  No more Freedom of Religion.  This is something we should oppose not support!

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Excuse my ignorance of political matters, I take things by a common sense approach and my ability to see the world as God has opened my eyes to. I find fault in myself to know that I'm not perfect, I'm not self preserved in being correct and the fact stands that we are all individuals with our own opinions and choices to what we believe. Therefore, I leave myself open to debate for the purpose of learning and rethinking.

In my opinion, this Country belongs to the citizens of it, as a whole. We work hard,(most), and taxes are taken from our wages, which is supposed to be pooled, and given back to the citizens, in the form of programs, legislated Bill's, with the elderly, disabled, and neediest as priority. We have no decision as how much tax is to be taken or how that tax is to be purposed. Throughout generations, from our trust in our elected officials to take care of us and not being involved in decisions concerning our welfare, from misunderstanding the system or being busy with our individual responsibilities of raising our families; we have been taken advantage of through the corruption and power of wealth. This seems to have given us the only voice and power to change things, is with our right to vote.

Even then, the citizens of this Country has been torn by diversion of the entire political spectrum and civil differences, to bring about chance and if to our lives. In other words, what if Hillary Clinton would have defeated President Trump. Or what if the Democrats had not of taken the House, by majority. And if a Convention of State had of been in force, to limit the powers of the Federal Government, would the impeachment of President Trump not have been successful? It seems to me that a Convention of States, would give the House the power of rule, not by Constitution but by corruption and abuse. There's to much argument to even agree on a Convention of States and the power given.

Where is the line to be drawn? If we say that the citizens of this Country, should band together and take this Country back, to which it belongs to the Patriots of a Constitutional Republic that believes in our God given rights to freedom and civil liberties, from the foundation our great Country was built on, what would the resolve be? It would, in my opinion, lead to Civil war and Anarchy because of diversity and to damn many Democrats that have a propaganda embedded mind and are blind to the truth.

The future, I have envisioned, is that a one World Order is inevitable, as prophysised to be the Anti Christ. 

The only resolution I can think of, is to keep my faith in God and look to his guidance in joining a well prepared Militant group, with the health and ability to keep my family safe, to keep from surrender of it, until his return. My only reliance is to his will and plan of my life. If I should lose my life, I know I am prepared, by His Grace to accept it.

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, SecurityGuy42 said:

The delegates have already been selected and there isn't a single Constitutionalist, Libertarian, or Conservative among them.

If it isn’t clear to some readers, please note that the same people who have been supporting red flag laws, CPS, Patrotic Act, et cetra, would be allowed to amend the constitution.

 

The argument is, as quoted from the video, that:

 

‘It is a safe means of amending the document because the country will be watching, and will not tolerate perversion or destruction.’

 

But like usual, and I agree with your notion, we are just going to watch our lives be ruined without doing anything about it. I also tender the argument that it is useless to try to fix the General Government when the state governments are currently incapable of functioning as a republic.

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2 hours ago, FloridaRifleman762 said:

If it isn’t clear to some readers, please note that the same people who have been supporting red flag laws, CPS, Patrotic Act, et cetra, would be allowed to amend the constitution.

 

The argument is, as quoted from the video, that:

 

‘It is a safe means of amending the document because the country will be watching, and will not tolerate perversion or destruction.’

 

But like usual, and I agree with your notion, we are just going to watch our lives be ruined without doing anything about it. I also tender the argument that it is useless to try to fix the General Government when the state governments are currently incapable of functioning as a republic.

HALALUYAY! WE WILL...WE WILL...COUNT ON IT...

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When I first heard about it I thought it was a good idea and then did some checking into it.  Here are some of the issues I found with it:

1) The last time a Convention of States was called was in 1787 to fix deficiencies with the Articles of Confederation.  They threw them out and just plain redid the whole thing.  The result was luckily the current US Constitution.  Once a Convention of States convenes they can do the exact same thing.

2) Changes at the CoS are done with simple majority vote.  So if 50.1% of the attendees agree on something it is automatically approved and passed.  And we can only change it if we go thru the Amendment process.  That's IF the newly changed document allows for Amendments.  That can be changed also with a simple majority vote at the Convention.

3) The people do not select the delegates, they are selected by State governments.  And from the reports I read and watched at the time I checked into this the delegates had already been selected in EVERY state.  And reportedly not a single Constitutionalist, Libertarian, or Conservative was chosen.  The delegates are all die hard leftists and outright communists.

4) The delegates can ignore the input, advice, complaints, and concerns of the citizens and government of the state they supposedly represent.  That was from members of the US Supreme Court when they were asked about the CoS.  So you can call, email, write letters, send up smoke signals.... doesn't matter the delegates are not beholden to you the voter who never even picked them in the first place.

5) This movement goes back to at least during the Bush Administration when the political left were mobilizing to stop who they said was a gun spinning cowboy version of Hitler.  They wanted to strip W of his authority and power as President.  It went no where.  When Obama came in the same people that tried restricting authority of a Rebloodican President wanted to have the CoS to vastly expand the powers of a Demoncrat President.  Since they couldn't mobilize enough leftists out of their mom's basements they changed the sales pitch to trick their enemies into getting the CoS going while they pulled strings behind the scenes to get the goals they wanted.  That goal is the complete elimination of the protections of our God given Rights under the current Constitution.  When the real leaders of the movement have been tracked down and questioned about the goals with the CoS they laugh and bluntly say they want to scrap the Constitution completely.  And as already said earlier they can do it at the Convention of States with no repercussions and we are bound by their decisions without our input when they made it.

 

I did searches to try and find some of the articles and news reports on this from when I looked into it a few years ago.  They are gone.  Memory holed.  And in their place Google gives you articles and pages about how we need to have this immediately to restore our country in the way they tell us it was meant to be.  And we can all trust that Google is truly concerned with our Rights and freedoms...right?

 

I agree we desperately need a restoration of the Constitution to what the Founding Fathers intended.  But I have no faith that a Convention of States will give us that result.  Especially since we (Patriots, Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Conservatives, Moderates) will have absolutely no say in what will be considered, discussed,  and voted on at the CoS.  The things we are being shown right now is propaganda.  A Potemkin Village to trick us into helping the enemies of the Constitution  reach their goals.  Counting on us to obey the new laws and restriction forced on us afterwards just like we obey what they force on us now through the legislatures and courts.

 

I will not support a Convention of States till after the War to restore this nation.  When people will be much wiser and truly understand how precious our Rights and Freedoms are.   And understand the price that was paid to regain them.

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16 hours ago, SecurityGuy42 said:

When I first heard about it I thought it was a good idea and then did some checking into it.  Here are some of the issues I found with it:

1) The last time a Convention of States was called was in 1787 to fix deficiencies with the Articles of Confederation.  They threw them out and just plain redid the whole thing.  The result was luckily the current US Constitution.  Once a Convention of States convenes they can do the exact same thing.

2) Changes at the CoS are done with simple majority vote.  So if 50.1% of the attendees agree on something it is automatically approved and passed.  And we can only change it if we go thru the Amendment process.  That's IF the newly changed document allows for Amendments.  That can be changed also with a simple majority vote at the Convention.

3) The people do not select the delegates, they are selected by State governments.  And from the reports I read and watched at the time I checked into this the delegates had already been selected in EVERY state.  And reportedly not a single Constitutionalist, Libertarian, or Conservative was chosen.  The delegates are all die hard leftists and outright communists.

4) The delegates can ignore the input, advice, complaints, and concerns of the citizens and government of the state they supposedly represent.  That was from members of the US Supreme Court when they were asked about the CoS.  So you can call, email, write letters, send up smoke signals.... doesn't matter the delegates are not beholden to you the voter who never even picked them in the first place.

5) This movement goes back to at least during the Bush Administration when the political left were mobilizing to stop who they said was a gun spinning cowboy version of Hitler.  They wanted to strip W of his authority and power as President.  It went no where.  When Obama came in the same people that tried restricting authority of a Rebloodican President wanted to have the CoS to vastly expand the powers of a Demoncrat President.  Since they couldn't mobilize enough leftists out of their mom's basements they changed the sales pitch to trick their enemies into getting the CoS going while they pulled strings behind the scenes to get the goals they wanted.  That goal is the complete elimination of the protections of our God given Rights under the current Constitution.  When the real leaders of the movement have been tracked down and questioned about the goals with the CoS they laugh and bluntly say they want to scrap the Constitution completely.  And as already said earlier they can do it at the Convention of States with no repercussions and we are bound by their decisions without our input when they made it.

 

I did searches to try and find some of the articles and news reports on this from when I looked into it a few years ago.  They are gone.  Memory holed.  And in their place Google gives you articles and pages about how we need to have this immediately to restore our country in the way they tell us it was meant to be.  And we can all trust that Google is truly concerned with our Rights and freedoms...right?

 

I agree we desperately need a restoration of the Constitution to what the Founding Fathers intended.  But I have no faith that a Convention of States will give us that result.  Especially since we (Patriots, Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Conservatives, Moderates) will have absolutely no say in what will be considered, discussed,  and voted on at the CoS.  The things we are being shown right now is propaganda.  A Potemkin Village to trick us into helping the enemies of the Constitution  reach their goals.  Counting on us to obey the new laws and restriction forced on us afterwards just like we obey what they force on us now through the legislatures and courts.

 

I will not support a Convention of States till after the War to restore this nation.  When people will be much wiser and truly understand how precious our Rights and Freedoms are.   And understand the price that was paid to regain them.

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As part of housekeeping chores I have cleaned up all of the duplicates of this thread and maintained this one, moved it to the Politics forum area. It'll eb a lot easier on you all to keep this in one thread vs 50+.

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