How to Fight: Part VII: Militia Drones

[MBR 224]

1 minute ago, Rascaldees said:

 

I'm pretty sure drones use GPS for navigation rather than flight stabilization. Otherwise the UH-1 Iroquois would have had the problem you're mentioning of drifting all over the place since GPS wasn't available when it was created. Even then you can remove the GPS and replace it with some gyroscopes to stabilize the flight as many flying contraptions have done in the past. 

 

Regardless, the point is that drones are useful to militia. In the case of riots, assuming your government is still with you, you can use a drone to survey the riots and contact law enforcement to let them know of mass groups of rioters' movements to assist them in arrests. 

You can fly a drone without a GPS but it's a lot harder and it's almost impossible to get it to hover.

 

A gyro keeps the drone from going into a spin, the flight controller use's input from the gyro the drive the ESC's properly, without a gyro it wouldn't be safe to fly and would spend more time mowing the grass than flying. 

 

Now with some drones like the DJI Phantom you cannot see the GPS system because it's under the upper dome.

 

[Rascaldees 174]

3 minutes ago, MBR said:

You can fly a drone without a GPS but it's a lot harder and it's almost impossible to get it to hover.

 

A gyro keeps the drone from going into a spin, the flight controller use's input from the gyro the drive the ESC's properly, without a gyro it wouldn't be safe to fly and would spend more time mowing the grass than flying. 

 

Now with some drones like the DJI Phantom you cannot see the GPS system because it's under the upper dome.

 

 

There are still dozens of other ways to achieve stable flight without a GPS. 

 

Edit: 

 

Also this entire argument is moot if you use a drone that doesn't fly. They exist. 

Edited June 23 by Rascaldees

[MBR 224]

1 minute ago, Rascaldees said:

 

There are still dozens of other ways to achieve stable flight without a GPS. 

That's fine I'll continuing building drones with a GPS installed, makes life a lot easier and safer.

[Rascaldees 174]

Just now, MBR said:

That's fine I'll continuing building drones with a GPS installed, makes life a lot easier and safer.

 

As I mentioned in my edit, there are still land based drones that move on treads or wheels. You can build your drone with a GPS and I'm sure it works well but assuming it is the only way for a drone to operate safely is like assuming guns are only safe at the gun range. Meanwhile, I'll be thinking outside of the box of norms and looking for ways to innovate. 

[MBR 224]

1 minute ago, Rascaldees said:

 

As I mentioned in my edit, there are still land based drones that move on treads or wheels. You can build your drone with a GPS and I'm sure it works well but assuming it is the only way for a drone to operate safely is like assuming guns are only safe at the gun range. Meanwhile, I'll be thinking outside of the box of norms and looking for ways to innovate. 

It is commonly accepted drones fly.

 

Per the definition

 

A drone, in technological terms, is an unmanned aircraft. ... Essentially, a drone is a flying robot that can be remotely controlled or fly autonomously through software-controlled flight plans in their embedded systems, working in conjunction with onboard sensors and GPS. 

[Guest Anon Cyb]

2 hours ago, Fed up said:

GTFO old timer, i said show us, quit talking about everything that you supposedly know. We have enough people that talk about the things that they know and try and force it down our gullets as gospel.

Good God man chill the fuck out! I do know more than you think, and certainly not an old timer, research the White Dragon Society Hozz, anyways I've said my opinions...

[Rascaldees 174]

1 minute ago, MBR said:

It is commonly accepted drones fly.

 

Per the definition

 

A drone, in technological terms, is an unmanned aircraft. ... Essentially, a drone is a flying robot that can be remotely controlled or fly autonomously through software-controlled flight plans in their embedded systems, working in conjunction with onboard sensors and GPS. 

 

 

 

This was found with a 10 second google search. And a drone is not always airborne. Anything remote controlled could be easily considered a drone. If the police mounted a handgun onto a small RC car the militia around the US would be screeching about drones. 

[MBR 224]

20 minutes ago, Rascaldees said:

 

I'm pretty sure drones use GPS for navigation rather than flight stabilization. Otherwise the UH-1 Iroquois would have had the problem you're mentioning of drifting all over the place since GPS wasn't available when it was created. Even then you can remove the GPS and replace it with some gyroscopes to stabilize the flight as many flying contraptions have done in the past. 

 

The UH-1 is stabilized by the main prop, and tail rotor, and Cyclic, that doesn't work with four opposing outrunner motors run remotely from the ground.

 

  

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, Rascaldees said:

Regardless, the point is that drones are useful to militia. In the case of riots, assuming your government is still with you, you can use a drone to survey the riots and contact law enforcement to let them know of mass groups of rioters' movements to assist them in arrests. 

I agree, but they make a lot of noise and to be flown over people requires an exemption from the FAA.

[MBR 224]

6 minutes ago, Rascaldees said:

 

 

 

This was found with a 10 second google search. And a drone is not always airborne. Anything remote controlled could be easily considered a drone. If the police mounted a handgun onto a small RC car the militia around the US would be screeching about drones. 

The police do have cannons mounted to robots, they where largely developed by the U.S. Army.

 

https://www.army-technology.com/features/featurebomb-disposal-robots-evolution-and-revolution/

 

[Rascaldees 174]

16 minutes ago, MBR said:

The police do have cannons mounted to robots, they where largely developed by the U.S. Army.

 

https://www.army-technology.com/features/featurebomb-disposal-robots-evolution-and-revolution/

 

Yes, I'm familiar with drones used for EOD. 

[MBR 224]

11 minutes ago, Rascaldees said:

Yes, I'm familiar with drones used for EOD. 

Ever flown a 206, they are really nice for aerial surveillance.

[Rascaldees 174]

12 minutes ago, MBR said:

Ever flown a 206, they are really nice for aerial surveillance.

 

I don't fly drones. I live off of $8,000 a year; well below the poverty line for the United States in every state. I'd fly them if I could but I don't have the money. Still, it's not too hard to imagine how they can be used. I'd wager a good drone in Seattle could probably poke a hole in the CHAZ and let officers in to swiftly and decisively deal with that. 

[Doug1943 1,614]

Just checked in here to this thread, in this very useful series.

 

First of all, everyone check this out: https://www.facebook.com/WhiteDragonSociety/

Brilliant!!!!   Had me laughing out loud ... wonderful take down of liberal hypocrisy... email this link to all your friends.  It ought to be an 'official' MyMilitia recommended site.

 

Second: technology advances. AI is going to transform a lot of things. We  need to stay up with it, and one way to do that is to expand our numbers and influence by an order of magnitude, then do it again. In the course of doing that, we'll recruit AI gurus, electrical engineers, bright college students at MIT who will decide to do a senior thesis on a project we suggest to them.  I have been in contact with a young man with an IQ such that he could give any of us fifty points, and still be ahead.  I'm trying to get him to get involved with this site, and then organize a 'task force' to go out and get more like him.  These people are out there, we just have to find them and convince them to get involved with us.

 

Of course, as we can see by this thread, we've already got some very good technically-savvy people. Contrast to AntiFa, who look like they couldn't change a tire on their own car.

 

Third: getting people involved with us will be harder, if they see us quarrelling among ourselves, using angry words and sarcasm and put-downs.  Argue, sure ... but don't bruise the ego of the other guy. We've got to stay united.  By its very nature, the patriot movement at this stage will attract some strong personalities, some people with a full measure of self-esteem, some people with a lot of pride in their accomplishments. That's a good thing, if their intelligence and creativity and energy can be channelled into building a movement that can, eventually, defend our country in the turmoil that is coming.

 

We're all on the same side here, save a few Russian trolls and hard-Left infiltrators hoping to get us shot or put into prison.  Let's not thin our own ranks with inner strife.

 

 

 

[MBR 224]

15 minutes ago, Rascaldees said:

 

I don't fly drones. I live off of $8,000 a year; well below the poverty line for the United States in every state. I'd fly them if I could but I don't have the money. Still, it's not too hard to imagine how they can be used. I'd wager a good drone in Seattle could probably poke a hole in the CHAZ and let officers in to swiftly and decisively deal with that. 

A 206 is a Bell 206 is a jet powered two bladed unit and one sweet machine to fly,

 

When I was working on getting my license I qualified with a Robertson R44, it's like flying in a sardine can, a few years later a friend of mine who fly's for a couple of news stations in South Florida asked me if I wasted to go up in his 206, he was going to capture video of the Toys for Tots run. 

 

Since he also is an instructor his unit is setup to be operated by either pilot, I told him I was comfortable taking off but would let him set it down, I flew it for about 45 minutes and fell in love with it, I always wanted to buy one and actually found out a way to pay for it by leasing it when I wasn't using it which would be most of the time but after talking with a few people who understood the business better than I the idea was put off. 

 

Then I moved out here in the sticks and have enough room to land one in my back or front yard but have no way to lease it out, so once in a great while I just rent one for my birthday, it's expensive $900 per hour but I don't do it but every few years.

 

   

[MBR 224]

43 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

Contrast to AntiFa, who look like they couldn't change a tire on their own car.

There's a saying, how are people who cannot start a lawnmower going to start a revolution. 

43 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

 

 

[Rascaldees 174]

17 minutes ago, MBR said:

There's a saying, how are people who cannot start a lawnmower going to start a revolution. 

 

They will lose. Hell, I called the CHAZ/CHOP/Failure and told them if they come to my state they will not leave it in the same condition as when they arrived. 

[Doug1943 1,614]

I believe everyone should say a prayer for AntiFa every night.  If they need money, we should take up a (secret) collection and send them a few thousand.

 

They are the best recruiting sergeants for the Militia Movement possible:  sort of scary, beating up Republican grandmothers, in masks .... but  the entire lot of them could be "retired with extreme prejudice"  by one Marine rifle company.

 

They could get a big boost in support among liberals  if Mr Trump is stupid enough to try some sort of legal move against them.  Hopefully, that won't happen.

[MBR 224]

48 minutes ago, Rascaldees said:

They will lose. Hell, I called the CHAZ/CHOP/Failure and told them if they come to my state they will not leave it in the same condition as when they arrived. 

What do those acronyms mean?

[MBR 224]

35 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

I believe everyone should say a prayer for AntiFa every night.  If they need money, we should take up a (secret) collection and send them a few thousand.

 

They are the best recruiting sergeants for the Militia Movement possible:  sort of scary, beating up Republican grandmothers, in masks .... but  the entire lot of them could be "retired with extreme prejudice"  by one Marine rifle company.

 

They could get a big boost in support among liberals  if Mr Trump is stupid enough to try some sort of legal move against them.  Hopefully, that won't happen.

I sort of agree, but I believe the DOJ should designate ANTIFA are a terrorist organization, they truly are, they are organized , they are outside funded and they have a command and control system in place, it's amateurish, but that makes it even more dangerous.

 

And the really sad part is, and we can do nothing about it, they are probably on this site learning as much as they can.

 

That stated and I can only speak for myself, not patting myself on the back but I have been in this game long before they came along and know things I don't think they could ever figure out and based on what I see here I am not alone when it comes to real world experience, versus book learnt.

 

 

[Rascaldees 174]

1 hour ago, MBR said:

What do those acronyms mean?

Capital Hill Autonomous Zone. Dunno the other one but they're interchangeable. 

[Doug1943 1,614]

1 hour ago, MBR said:

I sort of agree, but I believe the DOJ should designate ANTIFA are a terrorist organization, they truly are, they are organized , they are outside funded and they have a command and control system in place, it's amateurish, but that makes it even more dangerous.

 

And the really sad part is, and we can do nothing about it, they are probably on this site learning as much as they can.

 

That stated and I can only speak for myself, not patting myself on the back but I have been in this game long before they came along and know things I don't think they could ever figure out and based on what I see here I am not alone when it comes to real world experience, versus book learnt.

 

 

There's a famous saying by Napoleon (sort of obvious, really): "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".

 

Most people who sign up for the militia are thinking about the 'shooting war' which we hope to prevent, or to win should the democratic order be challenged by people hostile to it.

But... long before it comes to that -- if it does, which let God forbid -- there is a political war,  by the most serious, determined people on both sides,  -- the 'extremes' if you wish -- for the support of the broad middle -- 'support' being understood as an elastic term, which can range from total, fanatical committment, out to tepid lukewarm vaguely friendly neutrality.

 

That's the war we're in right now. The war for middle America.  Tne main big strategic aim for the next period is to expand our numbers by two orders of magnitude.

We have to grow 'horizonatally' in numbers, 'vertically' in national organization, and .... in the other dimension (length, width, height), by broadening the militia movement so that it includes other elements than it does right now.  Strategically we have to move into the mainstream of the conservative movement, and into the local community.

 

Our enemies are making a mistake right now ... we ought to be saying, under our breath, "Burn, baby, burn!" as the predecessors of todays rioters chanted fifty years ago. And then

going out and signing people up.

[MBR 224]

4 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

Our enemies are making a mistake right now ... we ought to be saying, under our breath, "Burn, baby, burn!" as the predecessors of todays rioters chanted fifty years ago. And then

going out and signing people up.

In other words, maintain the high ground and allow the enemy to destroy themselves in the eyes and the minds of the undecided.

 

Works for me.  

[Doug1943 1,614]

That's what Longstreet wanted Lee to do before Gettysburg.  Of course it wasn't moral ammunition they were shooting. But the idea is the same.

This whole mass of riots and crazyness is fueled by the belief on the part of the protestors and rioters, that they have the high moral ground.

Which in the eyes of some of them, justifies anything.

 

What's interesting is that even the Nazis wanted to have the high moral ground. Part of their propaganda against the US during WWII was ...that we lynched Black People!

 

 

 

[MBR 224]

5 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

What's interesting is that even the Nazis wanted to have the high moral ground. Part of their propaganda against the US during WWII was ...that we lynched Black People!

The same is happening here, law enforcement must be de-funded because they arrest black people, some resist and get killed because of that.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

 

 

 

 

[Todd A. Slee 1,465]

On 6/22/2020 at 9:33 PM, Rascaldees said:

 

Why does your drone have a GPS? It doesn't need it. Don't install one. Also biometrics is another noun for biometry.

 

Biometry:

the application of statistical analysis to biological data.

 

I think you've been reading into too many conspiracies my friend.

 

Also that's not how an encryption works. NO computer can crack into an encryption. No program. Nothing. There have been huge debates about it. 

 

And you can make a RADAR from a microwave... and a jammer.

     I don't know if it's relevant to this explicitly, but six or eight years ago, a computer security specialist of thirty years told me that a 13 digit password with upper, lower, numbers and symbols, can be cracked using rainbow tables.

     Also, since their are devices to block a cell phone signal, can the signal between a drone and it's remote control unit be blocked?