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[Guest Fed up]

46 minutes ago, GLCsector3295 said:

none of it matters, you can have videos of nurses and doctors, in their uniform with all kinds of proof that they work in the hospital industry and have been given written or verbal  directives to lie and it wont matter. At least not to the left who have lied from the beginning. they get caught lieing, and then they double down on the lie and then create a new one. it becomes a never ending game of friggin whack a mole, that i just dont care to play anymore.  I guess what is needed, is to compile this information and post it on a website that would be very hard to spin as racist or as a far right website.

 

the only other real way to get the bullshit and lies exposed, is to find a way to have the leftist media outlets to give interviews to people, but to have the person who is being interviewed to lie before the interview, and to come off as being apart of the narrative that is trying to be portrayed, and to then in a hopefully live interview expose what ever lie it is, not in a AH HA GOTCHA  manner that makes the person look nuts.  But in a manner that puts a stupid shocked look on the interviewers face because the truth has just been exposed. 

 

Because Fox News , and conservative radio shows, just do not matter to leftists and brain dead people, they stick to their polluted watering hole and what ever it gives as being the truth.  An it also might take having to move into social media platforms and posting links exposing the truth, with facts, the problem again is, finding links that do not come from what can be labeled as far right or racist sources, which may be impossible because the left will never identify what they consider to be valid sources, or rather, if it doesnt come from CNN and the like, then it is racist and far right.

 

i dunno.

 

 Really short of, becoming a new age terrorist that targets the leftist media and hacking and destroying their satellites an destroying their corporate offices , and hacking their bank accounts and wiping them clean; they are just going to keep on going in one form or another. As long as people like Jimmy Kimmel, programs like The View, and so on, can have a platform to spew their garbage, with no push back from the public they can keep going.  I would of thought by now, there would be a conservative network that is free over the air, that has programs that are the exact opposite of such leftist programs.  The ones that are out there, from what I can tell, are not free over the air. or are only political shows.

 

I mean trying to win the narrative in a peaceful way is nice, and the right way to do it. But it wont ever be a game that can be won.   I prefer a total bridge burning, and re building . To allow for disagreements in a constructive manner, but to not allow it to become a one sided, biased, political party funded operation that soaks into main stream society in TV, Hollywood, and etc.

 

  I find it easier for a free people to remove corrupted republicans and put an end to crony capitalism, than it is to try and reason with the left at any level.

It always matters, we most continue to hammer away with our moral authority and continue to grow and spread the word. 

[JPilken 133]

none of it matters, you can have videos of nurses and doctors, in their uniform with all kinds of proof that they work in the hospital industry and have been given written or verbal  directives to lie and it wont matter. At least not to the left who have lied from the beginning. they get caught lieing, and then they double down on the lie and then create a new one.
@ GLCsector3295

love to see these videos and research the said RNs licenses 

I work at the designated COVID-19 hospital in the upstate SC. That’s the hospital that ONLY takes COVID patients and we have tried chloroquine and have stopped using it due to the significant health risk and rate of improvement. We have moved on to IV Remdisivir and have seen some improvements. As to the “being told to lie” that’s horse shit. We are told to tell people to wash their hands distance when in public and practice good judgement. Like good judgment is even a thing. IF a RN or Dr made those statements it’s purely for personal gain. Maybe they want hazard pay or better snacks in the break room. If you don’t believe what the news has to say they why the hell do you believe what’s on YouTube?

[GLCsector3295 207]

3 hours ago, JPilken said:

none of it matters, you can have videos of nurses and doctors, in their uniform with all kinds of proof that they work in the hospital industry and have been given written or verbal  directives to lie and it wont matter. At least not to the left who have lied from the beginning. they get caught lieing, and then they double down on the lie and then create a new one.
@ GLCsector3295

love to see these videos and research the said RNs licenses 

I work at the designated COVID-19 hospital in the upstate SC. That’s the hospital that ONLY takes COVID patients and we have tried chloroquine and have stopped using it due to the significant health risk and rate of improvement. We have moved on to IV Remdisivir and have seen some improvements. As to the “being told to lie” that’s horse shit. We are told to tell people to wash their hands distance when in public and practice good judgement. Like good judgment is even a thing. IF a RN or Dr made those statements it’s purely for personal gain. Maybe they want hazard pay or better snacks in the break room. If you don’t believe what the news has to say they why the hell do you believe what’s on YouTube?

I should have been a bit more specific, the reports that I have seen on news outlets, is that hospital doctors  are being told that if a patient dies, and at the time of death had the Wuhan Flu,  to put down the cause of death being " Covid-19" / the idea behind that is, hospitals receive more government funding for covid-19 related deaths.   So while someone may have covid-19, and did die, what is not being taken into account are the other surrounding health conditions of the person, someone could of technically died from heart conditions, and had the Wuhan Flu.....   the Covid-19 is not the primary ( in some cases )  and only cause of death; but it certainly made things worse for people who already were on deaths door, had bad health problems etc to begin with.  More over, I do not remember anyone saying that the doctors are being paid to lie.

 

Not that staff and doctors are being paid to lie to patients and to keep them un aware of the Wuhan Flu

 

 

but again, that wasn't my point, my point was, if  what i just clarified is true, IF, these people could go on the air with all their credentials posted all over the TV screen, the left could be caught red handed, it wouldn't matter to the left, they would double down on their lies in some manner or another or deflect, like they did when that Smolette actor got caught lying about Trump Supporters putting a noose around his neck,  or pick your own.  Getting caught in a lie for the left, doesn't mean anything to them.

 

 

 

Edited June 20 by GLCsector3295

[NACPatriot 2]

If we millions patriotic Americans don't flood the streets with demonstrations against the deep state, against ANTIFA, against BLM against the MSM and against socialism and communism then we patriots are underestimating our enemy which is a huge error we must avoid at all cost. Mass demonstrations to start with. Most of the Republicans are sold outs: four or five true conservative/libertarian patriots in Congress + Trump is not strong enough. Trump needs us all.

[Doug1943 1,614]

2 hours ago, NACPatriot said:

If we millions patriotic Americans don't flood the streets with demonstrations against the deep state, against ANTIFA, against BLM against the MSM and against socialism and communism then we patriots are underestimating our enemy which is a huge error we must avoid at all cost. Mass demonstrations to start with. Most of the Republicans are sold outs: four or five true conservative/libertarian patriots in Congress + Trump is not strong enough. Trump needs us all.

This is absolutely correct.

 

We have to wage political war, and mass demonstrations are one weapon in that war. They build morale, show people that they are not isolated, are demonstration of strength - ...

If they are "mass".  Nothing is worse than called for a "mass" demonstration and having only a few people turn up.

 

Our problem is ...  although there are 'masses' of Americans who love their country and want to save it -- sixty million of them at least --  we do not lead them yet.

We might call a demonstration, and have only a handful of people come.

 

So ... we need to build the organizational structures that can mobilize a large part of that sixty million.

The militia movement is just one of those possible structures.

[Crispus Attucks 28]

18 hours ago, JPilken said:

...we have tried chloroquine and have stopped using it due to the significant health risk and rate of improvement....

 

Funny that.... It's been shown that numerous of the studies that claim it doesn't work are bunk! The Lancet story comes too mind. 

It's also been shown that the claim of danger for chloroquine and hydro-chloroquine are significantly overstated. And that's an understatement! How is that something that's had likely billions of doses against malaria alone with a rate of negative interaction well below 1% have "significant" health risks? 

 

OTOH, the positive gains from Remdesivir are marginal at best! 

 

The exact mechanism for chloroquine and hydro-chloroquine are easily understood, but require a second component for the treatment too work. Something the Lancet study completely ignores. Something also that it's detractors never mention. That's zinc! This is well explained by a doctor in the videos below.

 

Medcram 32:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U

Medcram 34:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M

Medcram 59:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2A2xNLWR4

 

For commentary about the validity of the various studies, Chris Martenson (a published Epidimeologist) of Peak Prosperity does a great job of showing how they all seem to be designed to mislead. 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRgTUN1zz_oeQpnJxpeaEkFimDeepqyWf

 

The above said, if we as free people have come to see that the media is complicit in the rise of Cultural Marxism, is it really a stretch to see that they AND medicine are also far more Malthusian then Republican?

 

 

Edited June 20 by Crispus Attucks

[Doug1943 1,614]

On 6/18/2020 at 5:46 PM, Crispus Attucks said:

Not trying to be argumentative but this thread has two very important and different messages going. One is the "Blue State Slaughter..." vid and the other is the conversation concerning Antifa. Might it be a better idea to have separate threads for different topics? Is it possible for a mod in this forum to create a different thread with the Antifa topic?

Good point. Administrators: let's make this man a mod!

[Doug1943 1,614]

Imagine you were a French patriot, watching the victorous Wehrmacht hold its victory parade in Paris in 1940.

 

 

What would you have wanted to do?  Yes, start shooting.

What should you have done?   Yes, start organizing. Get in touch with your friends, start building a network, get a clandestine press going, accumulate arms, get in touch with the leaders in London -- who will have assignments for you, mainly of an intelligence-gathering sort.

 

Here's the attitude not to have:  "I want it NOW!"  Well, sorry ... you can't have it now.

 

People on this site sometimes fantasize about 'guerilla warfare', usually without the slightest knowledge of it. 

[If you want some knowledge of it, start with Max Boot's Invisible Armies.]

But they are not wrong, to think that the political situation we have taken for granted -- freedom of speech, free elections, etc -- could radically change. 

 

If it did, we would have to operate differently.  Note that there is a wide spectrum from perfectly free societies on one end,  to North Korea 1984 societies on the other.

 

Lots of liberty-loving people have had to function somewhere on that spectrum ... in the 19th Century, in France, before 1830, you couldn' t OPENLY oppose the monarchy ... no newspapers for example could call for the Republic to be restored... but you could hold 'banquets' ...  and so on.

 

But right now we can get on the internet and do things!!!!!   We can grow!!!! Why aren't more people here interested in doing that???? 

If anyone is actually interested, I can give you some intelligence-gathering assignments -- getting some information on the enemy -- right now. Just PM me.

 

And please ... all those calls to GET YOUR GUNS AND DO SOMETHING NOW ... recognize them for what they are: the voice of the enemy, possibly spoken sincerely by misguided or insane people, possibly the work of Leftist provocateurs or members of the Russian glavset, who have already received a bonus for setting off a couple of crazy 'boogaloo' maniacs in California and Nevada.

 

[GLCsector3295 207]

Exactly Dough, especially this last part, 

47 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

And please ... all those calls to GET YOUR GUNS AND DO SOMETHING NOW ... recognize them for what they are: the voice of the enemy, possibly spoken sincerely by misguided or insane people, possibly the work of Leftist provocateurs or members of the Russian glavset, who have already received a bonus for setting off a couple of crazy 'boogaloo' maniacs in California and Nevada.

 

Which made me think a bit, if the USA has the CIA and other secret services infiltrating  areas around the world, and causing dissent against dictatorial regimes exactly why wouldn't Russia, or others do the same and send people over now to fan the flames. It sounds like fantasy, but it really isn't that far fetched. I didn't really consider it as being possible, until I took a moment to think about it. An why is it, these random militias that are popping up in the media as far right, racist what ever, are all of a sudden well known by the left, but for the life of me I never knew they were around, granted I didn't go looking for them, but still it wasn't as main stream as the left made them that I readily knew of a specific group.

 

An really until ANTIFA, and BLM, and other leftist / racist organizations, start to galvanize and put on uniforms, and march in a manner as we see in the WWII photo here, there isn't that much that can be done. At least not in the sense of an armed conflict. Though what most people do not understand about armed conflicts, those that have not have served in the military, is the grueling nature of it all, the endless training that 90% of the time is completely pointless but has to be done because there just isn't anything else to do in the military, an to then one day, use that training for actual fighting that only lasts in spurts, and then as a military; becomes an occupying force fighting in spurts as they arise.  While as citizens we can not operate like that for any extended period of time, we have lives and family and friends and other goals we want to achieve.  The American Revolution and Civil War didn't just last one summer and then poof life got better. We know that.  The active leftists don't seem to realize that. Their entire active engagements was picked at the worst possible time, the summer.   An with the attention span that they have, it will get old soon enough. They do not have any real goal, there is no real obtainable finish line. Granted there is an agenda and objective. But all they have is an echo chamber in the form of a media and a political party backing them.  When the fall approaches, all this drama is going to be nothing more than b.s for Biden to throw at Trump ( that is if Biden can stay awake long enough, and remember wtf is going on ) .

 

 I think the really infuriating thing for me though, is nothing shuts the left up, in any manner, facts, the truth, pointing out their hypocrisy , their wanting a socialist system, or pointing out that even with the existence of racism in America, we have Networks like B.E.T ( black entertainment channel )  an entire music industry which is rap, R & B,  or hell the Jazz music that was made famous by black musicians,  there are plenty of Black C.E.Os and business, lawyers, the first black president. an the list goes on and on, and it just doesn't matter, and that is the insanity that I find infuriating and really this entire narrative should be more offensive to everyone than it is. 

 

An if someone asked me, well what is the answer , I have no clue, I mean society has plenty of good religious leaders that are trying, there are plenty of sound minded people of all races addressing the issue, an plenty of good groups out there in various forms from militias to N.G.Os , and it barely feels like a dent in the issue. The insanity of the left just seems to grow .

 

 

[Doug1943 1,614]

Although I use the term, 'the Left' a lot ... there isn't just one 'Left'.

There are basically three. They interact and influence each other.

 

(1) Anti-fa, BLM, and the like.  They are a big nuisance, will burn down some neighborhoods, beat a few patriots to death, but they are no serious threat. They can't 'take power'. The 'progressive establishment' may use them, but basically sees them as an irritating nuisance that can drive votes to our side.  AntiFa are sort-of anarchists, but not serious ones.  (If you want serious anatchists, read abou the people who waged terrorist war in the US for about fifty years ... Sacco and Vanzetti being the most well-known. These people assassinated presidents, killed dozens of people by bombs, including bombing a 'preparedness parade' ... they were followers of an Italian guy whose name I forget. Very serious people.  Then there were the anarchists in Spain, a serious force, who had strong militias who fought the Franco fascists for three years. Again, very serious people.  (And good guys, really.)   But antiFa are just human dust.

 

(2)  The hard-core Communists.   One of them is making big news in Seattle ... she's on the City Council, and is a serious Leninist. But fortunately, all the American communists are divided into a dozen relatively small groups. They hate each other, and AntiFa hate all of  them.  If we were half-way organized, we could take advantage of these splits and divisions. But we're not. Everyone wants to go play soldier on Saturdays, when we really need -- in addition to training exercises -- to be waging political war.

 

(3)   The Progressives.  DSA is the most organized and conscious wing of them... they are in the process of wresting control of the Democrats from the Pelosi's and Biden's.  (Yes, I know many people cannot distinguish between Nancy Pelosi and a hard-core communist and Satan. The political knowledge of the Right is primitive, just moral attidues rather than real in-depth information.)  The Progressives are the main enemy at the moment, because they are slowly destroying America.

 

Noone knows the future, which is subject to unpredicatable accidents.  But once the Progressives have really eaten away at the foundations of the US, we will see big changes on the Left. We might see some  sort of unified communist party ... we might see the emergence of a mass racist-fascist movement. Not possible to say, but whatever happens, it will be very handy if the good guys, us, had a few hundred thousand people under arms.

 

You are right about the Black situation -- good progress has been made, from a very low base after slavery. A proper government would attack the urban Black problem by, among other things, a program of real school choice, and de-academicizing the curriculum.  (C'mon, how many people need to know how to factorize a quadratic equation by completing the square?  As opposed to how to get a mortgage, or how to spot-weld?) 

 

The race issue is THE big issue on which the US could really come apart, and not in a good way. Most people on the Right, while not being 'racists' as the Left says, don't really understand the problem. But that's another issue.

[Crispus Attucks 28]

6 hours ago, Doug1943 said:

The race issue is THE big issue on which the US could really come apart, and not in a good way. Most people on the Right, while not being 'racists' as the Left says, don't really understand the problem. But that's another issue.

 

The BIG issue is elsewhere. Race is a tool to keep us divided. Understanding the real problem would unify us against the elites that ultimately gain from times like these. Long Tom and Old Hickory both spoke of this issue. 

 

It seems we may fight to the death while our money turns to confetti. 

 

 

 

 

[Patriot.40 19]

On 6/13/2020 at 12:01 PM, Tommy O'Neil said:

? LetFreedomRing

 

I'm a centrist, is this definition correct?

 

An·ti·fa

/ˈan(t)ēˌfä,ˌanˈtēfə/

Learn to pronounce

 

noun

noun: Antifa; noun: anti-fa

1. a political protest movement comprising autonomous groups affiliated by their militant opposition to fascism and other forms of extreme right-wing ideology.

   "Saturday's rally had the support of Antifa, whose sworn enemy is the far right"

  

You know how ignorant these children are?  What they call " Right Wing Idealogy" is What this country was founded on......God - Family - Country, and that is what are founders wanted this country to be. I don't care how this Snowflakes feel !

[Constitutional Patriot 267]

On 6/10/2020 at 11:01 PM, Fed up said:

I will not stand by and let contact tracers come and test me and then tell me that I am sick when I'm not sick and tell me I have to be quarantined. I will not go and I will not stand for this.

When the sick are quarantined, it's a public health crisis. When the healthy are quarantined, it's tyranny.  No..we should not stand for it. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/10/2020 at 11:35 PM, Todd A. Slee said:

Where are some FBI agents or CIA ops with scruples and spine? Is anyone even investigating this stuff? Or are those limp wrists more concerned with going against orders and losing their retirement, like always? And that's if they're not just Nazi-types to begin with.

     Absolutely despicable. But that is one awesome woman, and a military vet at that.

She knew she flushed her nursing license and career down the toilet to expose the mass murder in hospitals. HIPAA violation to expose them. This is what a hero looks like! 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/13/2020 at 11:01 AM, Tommy O'Neil said:

? LetFreedomRing

 

I'm a centrist, is this definition correct?

 

An·ti·fa

/ˈan(t)ēˌfä,ˌanˈtēfə/

Learn to pronounce

 

noun

noun: Antifa; noun: anti-fa

1. a political protest movement comprising autonomous groups affiliated by their militant opposition to fascism and other forms of extreme right-wing ideology.

   "Saturday's rally had the support of Antifa, whose sworn enemy is the far right"

  

No, not even close. They are people that have NO solutions, pretend fascism is a thing in this Country, and don't realize they were the only fascists in the US. Until they joined BLM. They can't even comprehend Hitler was a leftist. 

 

To them, anyone that disagrees with them on any point is: fascist, nazi, literally Hitler, and worse than Hitler. Simultaneously. 

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/15/2020 at 7:00 PM, TIMK1975 said:

However you look at the Antifa  goons or the other groups being used as muscle by the far right to push a select view of how America needs to “evolve”... you need to admit they are doing a good job. They have made more progress in the last month than in the last 20 years. Case in point— media changes—Cops, Live PD and 48 Hours have now been taken off TV. Official Reason is because networks want to support BLM and progressive reforms for public safety agencies. (Real reason— most people arrested on those shows are minorities.) I liked those shows because criminals went to jail.... didn’t care what color your skin was. Bad times 

Who is being used as muscle by the right?  Did you mean to say "groups being used as muscle by the far left?"

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/18/2020 at 11:52 AM, Crispus Attucks said:

 

Agreed! I've been aware of the Chlorquine / Zinc treatment since March and have found over the counter alternatives to act as a prophylactic. In particular, quercetin + zinc +copper.  Quercetin is an all natural substance that acts as a zinc ionosphore as mentioned in the shared video. Once zinc is inside the cell (thanx to quercetin), it halts the RNA machinery of the virus. Copper is a know anti-viral and does kill the coronavirus. 

 

THIS is the kind of thing other Patriots should know. How we take care of ourselves in an environment that wishes to see us gone. 

Terminology:

 

HCQ = hydroxychoroquine. 5 x less side effect profile than chloroquine, which is decades older. HCQ + azithromycin does in fact fight this virus, as proven in the lab. Add zinc to it and the rate of both hospitalization and death gets cut in HALF. None of the studies reported on by misleadia use the combination of all three. Massive problems with the studies they have reported on. 

 

Ionophore: that's what helps get zinc in our cells. This interferes with viral replication so that our immune system has less to fight. If we wait til we know we're sick to take this, we're not likely to get enough zinc in time. Quercetin is a zinc ionophore, and also has lots of other benefits pertaining to our immune system, especially when taken with vitamin C. In pill form, C doesn't do us so much good. Kiwi or oranges are far better. Copper mainly balances out zinc, and we don't need much to do that. You can certainly take too much copper. Lots and lots of zinc over a period of time should have some supplemental copper to go with it. 

 

EGCG, the active ingredient in green tea (extract) is also a zinc ionophore. This too has lots of varied health benefits, but mainly it's a gentle pick-me-up with no caffeine crash. So while we can't get HCQ by any means, maybe we can get a partial benefit with some cheap over the counter stuff that's generally good. Also by deliberately boosting our innate immune system, which naturally weakens as we age. Echinacea helps, ashwaganda hurts. Exercise and raised body temperature both help. Our skin doesn't turn sunlight into vitamin D as well as we age.

 

Even though the virus is nothing like the initial panic, some simple steps to stay healthy make sense. If authorities were concerned with public health they would've done everything differently, including immediately telling people that quarantine destroys our immune system and what steps we could take to boost it. (Not to mention giving sick people medicine, which was DONATED)

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/19/2020 at 3:41 PM, GLCsector3295 said:

none of it matters, you can have videos of nurses and doctors, in their uniform with all kinds of proof that they work in the hospital industry and have been given written or verbal  directives to lie and it wont matter. At least not to the left who have lied from the beginning. they get caught lieing, and then they double down on the lie and then create a new one. it becomes a never ending game of friggin whack a mole, that i just dont care to play anymore.  I guess what is needed, is to compile this information and post it on a website that would be very hard to spin as racist or as a far right website.

 

the only other real way to get the bullshit and lies exposed, is to find a way to have the leftist media outlets to give interviews to people, but to have the person who is being interviewed to lie before the interview, and to come off as being apart of the narrative that is trying to be portrayed, and to then in a hopefully live interview expose what ever lie it is, not in a AH HA GOTCHA  manner that makes the person look nuts.  But in a manner that puts a stupid shocked look on the interviewers face because the truth has just been exposed. 

 

Because Fox News , and conservative radio shows, just do not matter to leftists and brain dead people, they stick to their polluted watering hole and what ever it gives as being the truth.  An it also might take having to move into social media platforms and posting links exposing the truth, with facts, the problem again is, finding links that do not come from what can be labeled as far right or racist sources, which may be impossible because the left will never identify what they consider to be valid sources, or rather, if it doesnt come from CNN and the like, then it is racist and far right.

 

i dunno.

 

 Really short of, becoming a new age terrorist that targets the leftist media and hacking and destroying their satellites an destroying their corporate offices , and hacking their bank accounts and wiping them clean; they are just going to keep on going in one form or another. As long as people like Jimmy Kimmel, programs like The View, and so on, can have a platform to spew their garbage, with no push back from the public they can keep going.  I would of thought by now, there would be a conservative network that is free over the air, that has programs that are the exact opposite of such leftist programs.  The ones that are out there, from what I can tell, are not free over the air. or are only political shows.

 

I mean trying to win the narrative in a peaceful way is nice, and the right way to do it. But it wont ever be a game that can be won.   I prefer a total bridge burning, and re building . To allow for disagreements in a constructive manner, but to not allow it to become a one sided, biased, political party funded operation that soaks into main stream society in TV, Hollywood, and etc.

 

  I find it easier for a free people to remove corrupted republicans and put an end to crony capitalism, than it is to try and reason with the left at any level.

Here are some harsh realities we're dealing with on these very salient points you raise:

 

1) MSM is owned by a select few. This has gotten worse. They have an agenda, and it is the orchestrated take-down of the US we all see from different angles. They could operate at a loss for 1,000 years and not experience a budget shortfall.

 

2) The left has been operating on emotion for some time now. At least the past 5 years. We didn't have a 24/7 news cycle before 911, it was game shows. Notice how they cycle emotional stories to keep their audience's emotions at a fever pitch. People can't maintain that, not and stay healthy. They will either burn out or we may catch them at an emotional low. We should arrive at something that will appeal to their emotions, which just might open them up to hearing some small nugget of truth. For example white supremacists would not align with BLM. And yet any fact or statistic is already labeled "racist," so we have to temper any expectations. 

 

3)  OANN, RSBN and Epoch Times put out many stories that can be found for free. We can share them, but only amongst ourselves. youtube used to be a great source for independent journalism and discussion with locals to the story. We saw how youtube put an end to that. These are dark days ...

[Razor Ramone 55]

On 6/19/2020 at 6:52 PM, JPilken said:

none of it matters, you can have videos of nurses and doctors, in their uniform with all kinds of proof that they work in the hospital industry and have been given written or verbal  directives to lie and it wont matter. At least not to the left who have lied from the beginning. they get caught lieing, and then they double down on the lie and then create a new one.
@ GLCsector3295

love to see these videos and research the said RNs licenses 

I work at the designated COVID-19 hospital in the upstate SC. That’s the hospital that ONLY takes COVID patients and we have tried chloroquine and have stopped using it due to the significant health risk and rate of improvement. We have moved on to IV Remdisivir and have seen some improvements. As to the “being told to lie” that’s horse shit. We are told to tell people to wash their hands distance when in public and practice good judgement. Like good judgment is even a thing. IF a RN or Dr made those statements it’s purely for personal gain. Maybe they want hazard pay or better snacks in the break room. If you don’t believe what the news has to say they why the hell do you believe what’s on YouTube?

There is every reason NOT to believe what news has to say. They lie, deliberately. They have lost ALL credibility, years ago. 

 

You haven't done anything sensible with chloroquine and have no basis for talking about it.  Sorry to be blunt but you are in the worst position to know anything about this, which you demonstrated with 100% clarity. By the time someone is so sick they've been admitted to a hospital, it's a completely different condition. 

 

John Hopkins determined years ago that HCQ is safe at 400 mg per day for long term use. That didn't suddenly change after 60 + years of use and millions of patients. This notion of "health risk" is a lie. HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) is decades newer than chloroquine and has a 5 x lower side effect profile. Had you used it, you wouldn't refer to it as "chloroquine." Neither would you refer to one drug had you used it in sensible combination. Chloroquine itself was studied in over 3,000 covid-19 patients before we ever heard about any of this in the US. All the claims that there were no studies is nothing but crony capitalism. Dr Doom big pharma Fauci makes no money off HCQ, but makes plenty off the main things being pushed besides oxygen. 

 

Used properly HCQ reduces hospitalizations and death by 95% as compared to our national average, and this has been repeated. That doesn't change just because authorities are killing as many of us as possible. No different from letting Burn Loot Murder run wild, while only arresting anyone stopping them. 

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On 6/20/2020 at 1:44 AM, NACPatriot said:

If we millions patriotic Americans don't flood the streets with demonstrations against the deep state, against ANTIFA, against BLM against the MSM and against socialism and communism then we patriots are underestimating our enemy which is a huge error we must avoid at all cost. Mass demonstrations to start with. Most of the Republicans are sold outs: four or five true conservative/libertarian patriots in Congress + Trump is not strong enough. Trump needs us all.

Can you explain to me what you think peaceful demonstrations will accomplish? Because the 2A rally on 1/20/20 in VA was PERFECT. 30,000, and the very next day they voted for all the same gun control measures anyway. In a State that almost every County declared itself a "2A Sanctuary."

 

I think this proves that the time for peaceful protest is long past. 

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Peaceful protests when you are a patriot is putting a bulls eye on your back these days. If you are not careful you could wind up losing your job, your home and pretty much everything else. I have seen those who support Trump, the 2A and other conservative causes get ridiculed, unemployed and just plain ostracized for their beliefs. BUT a criminal or some leftist scumbag can loot, burn businesses or assault people and be a “hero” of the people. 

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On 6/18/2020 at 4:13 PM, Fed up said:

Satan means exactly what it says these people worship Satan that are in higher positions of power.

Okay, what's your evidence for that?  Why do you believe it?

And, do you have any details for that?  Do they worship him on Sundays, or some other day?  Do they take up a collection at the service? Do they sing Satanic hymns?

 

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On 6/20/2020 at 10:55 PM, Crispus Attucks said:

 

The BIG issue is elsewhere. Race is a tool to keep us divided. Understanding the real problem would unify us against the elites that ultimately gain from times like these. Long Tom and Old Hickory both spoke of this issue. 

 

It seems we may fight to the death while our money turns to confetti. 

 

 

 

 

If Democrats can divide everyone/ groups then they get 1/2 of the people to be in despair at voting time(poor me)

Also we are stronger as one group (United) Democrats know they will lose
In the end people will realize everyone is not racist 

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On 6/18/2020 at 10:13 AM, Fed up said:

Satan means exactly what it says these people worship Satan that are in higher positions of power.

 

On 6/18/2020 at 9:04 AM, Doug1943 said:

In the 1930s the CPUSA grew to nearly 100 000 members with ten times that many sympathyzers, some in high places.

 

Third:  the real threat. Slow infiltration of the cultural apparatus of society. It's not a conscious plot, really, despite what people tell you about Gramsci and the Frankfurt School.

It's happened sponteously, not because the KGB sent sleepers into the Harvard faculty. 

("Comrade Igor! Your mission for glorious Motherland will be to become American professor and indoctrinate students!"

 

 

I'd be curious to learn about the beginnings of overt communist operations in the US. This is not something I have looked into. Any good online sources?

 

I agree with you that no military takeover of the US is going to happen, and certainly not by the likes of BLM or antifa. That the real threat is US society actually changing, which the US Constitution allows for. I would hope we are all concerned with a minority silencing the majority, which is clearly happening. Cancel culture, we are all being silenced. This is effectively "the overthrow of the US Constitution," which antifa has plainly stated as their goal for at least 5 years. This is not military means, and it would be nice if we weren't all completely ineffective at stopping it. 

 

Further understanding is needed. You are a student of history. You clearly fathom how the history of battles and wars impacts decisions today, or the possible immediate future. This knowledge is invaluable! The rest of my post may be purely academic, but it may likewise contain valuable information that we all need to know if we are to be effective rather than merely watch helplessly as our Nation is toppled the rest of the way.

 

Your joke is funny. It also demonstrates very clearly that, at least in civilian circles,  you have no idea how subversion happens, and even more clearly that you've never been exposed to the conflict of teachers vs school administration.  Administrators collect almost all the pay, provide nothing but problems, and steamroll right over teachers who do all the actual educating.  Further, teachers have to get hired; they can't very well come in with ideas opposed to the administration.  Soviet subversion, if it were to ever be as clumsy as sending individuals directly to our academia, it would be to key administration positions, NOT a lowly teacher. Here we can see the plainly stated goals of Soviet subversion, all of which are now met, and that they are aligned with the rest of the forces that've actively been trying to topple the US for 107 years:  

 

26 minutes long, but keen insight well worth watching. 

 

The spontaneous occurrence that you suggest arose in academia simply wasn't possible unless it started at the top. The CFR was formed in 1921 by Cecil Rhodes, who also started it's Sister organization in the UK. Since then academia has been a race to develop the most "progressive" student possible, because of the rewards associated with producing Rhodes scholars. This is indisputable fact. They also choose who we get to vote for, which is not at all provable but simply look at the % of Rhodes scholars among political candidates vs the general population. The influence is undeniable. 

 

I know nothing about Gramsci, other than something that surfaced recently about some politician being the Son of a Prof who focused on teaching his ideas. If you comprehend the Frankfurt School, it's goals have also permeated academia, from elementary school through University. It is impossible to hand wave that away as nonsense, it is well-established fact. It is also impossible to say that any small elite group is in actual control; control is contested, people vie for it.  This is the essence of human history. And also why this matters! If we are to contest the control of evil, we need to understand who is doing what. In academic circles, we aren't changing anything before November; it will take generations. We CAN better understand the mindset of our immediate opponents, however. It should directly inform our efforts at say a table at a gun show, and all the other practical ideas you have about how the movement here should be operating now, both to expand political influence and to expand numbers. 

 

I don't mean to be abrasive, but much has come to light since you were a school boy, and this could be added to your historic database with good effect. By the same token, "boogaloo bois" are nothing but a Fed honeypot. The ok hand sign as being a symbol of white supremacy started as a joke, by the chans. (4chan, 8chan, /Pol) Hopefully you've already seen the resolution of that? Same thing with "boogaloo," which has NEVER  been a group. If it were, how did it escape detection on this website? Of all the people here who have been in contact with right-wing groups of all flavors over the past 5 years, how come NO ONE has ever heard of any such group? Because it simply does not exist. The wiki page on them was started May 20th. Yes, immediately before the death of George Floyd, Hmmm. By contrast, /Pol has joked about Hawaiian shirts in this context for many years because they are obnoxious and easily identifiable. "Poe's Law" states that satire is indistinguishable from reality as you approach extremism. (It was started by E. Poe as purely referencing Christianity, and this militant atheist who's first name I forget was such an idiot I used sheer logic to drive him off the Christian website where he made his contribution to society. It was an immediate improvement)

 

The immediate relevancy to all this is AG Barr has decided to target the "Boogaloo Bois," while giving a pass to BLM / antifa. Or I should qualify that: if he has, he's simply stalling anyone who might act to thwart BLM's intimidation. It's also possible that he's sending a fake signal to try to help flush out BLM / antifa leadership, and really will reign in the Marxist takeover attempt. The contrast couldn't be clearer: we have countless hours of footage of BLM / antifa setting fires, destroying property, and stealing, with (at least) 19 dead.  While 3 "Boogaloo Bois" are charged even though they didn't act. So by all means yes, let's target the non-existent Boogaloo Boys and continue to excuse BLM / antifa which is nothing but a Marxist takeover disguised as racial conflict. 

 

Such is the state of our Nation. Every shred of intel we can gather may prove useful. The immediate takeaway here aligns with the official militia stance: WAIT! If AG Barr actually targets BLM / antifa, it will be a very good thing none of us did. If he continues not to? Don't be fooled by claims of white supremacists aligning with BLM, which is farcical on its face. And realize that "Boogaloo Bois" do NOT exist! No self-respecting conservative would name themselves that. It's a tragedy that some will be lured into the honeypot. That's how most Muslims have been arrested here since 911, too. We should brace for info to continue coming in at a faster pace, and the situation on the ground to match that problem.  We'll need to be able to adapt quickly. "The fog of war" is thick right now, and we need to give AG Barr some time to tip his hand. Hopefully everyone here knows he was approving of the Federal snipers at Ruby Ridge. 

Edited June 27 by Razor Ramone

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31 minutes ago, Razor Ramone said:

 

 

   We'll need to be able to adapt quickly. "The fog of war" is thick right now, and we need to give AG Barr some time to tip his hand. Hopefully everyone here knows he was approving of the Federal snipers at Ruby Ridge. 

 

Whoa. Thank you for the very thoughtful and informative post. I did not know about Mr Bezmenov -- I'll have to get his books. I note from his Wiki bio that he died of a 'massive heart attack'. And I know the KGB and its precursors put a lot of research into various poisons, including one that imitates a heart attack, with which they killed a Ukrainian nationalist in Berlin -- and his death was recorded as a heart attack until the archives were opened 30 years later.  And I did not know that about Mr Barr, although I have read a lot about Ruby Ridge. Unbelievable. If the Russians or Cubans had done that, we would never hear the end of it.

 

Now ... you raise a critical question  -- really,  THE critical question, namely -- how in the hell did this happen to our nation? It really is like that virus which can control the behavior of mice, making them 'fearless' so that they are eaten by cats, thus allowing the virus to spread via cat feces.. . which is eaten by mice ..et.c.  True story.

 

I only know part of the picture, and my knowledge is shaped, maybe distorted, by my own background and experiences.  I was an active hard-core communist for the first twenty-five years of my adult life, and a soft-core unaffiliated one for the next ten, gradually attaining wisdom.  I lived in the Soviet Union for a few months in 1985, since I accompanied by then-wife, who was a Fulbright Exchange Scholar there. She is an economist and speaks Russian, and could give away fifty IQ points and still be smarter than 99% of any thousand randomly-selected  Americans. But she is still a socialist, of sorts, albeit one who loathes political correctness and sees how the Left is destroying academia. 

 

I don't want to go into my own theories about how we got here at the moment, except to say, I don't think our situation is the result of any conscious conspiracy. Conspiracy thinking  is lazy thinking.

And in a way it does not matter. If you think we're here because of the Illuminati, and I don't, well, so long as we agree on what to do next, I don't want to argue about it.  If someone who agrees with me on

my analysis of society and history, but wants us to start shooting now,  or to give up and hide in a cabin in the woods and grow organic vegetables,  then he is my enemy (politically) and you are my ally.

 

I'll make you an offer. Let's swap reading lists.  You've already turned me on to Mr Bezmenov,whose books I will get and read.  I can send you, or post here, some good things to read. I'll leave with a statement and a link:

Statement: Life is complicated, and our enemies have many internal contradictions and disputes within their own ranks. 

Link: https://communism.fandom.com/wiki/Platypus_Affiliated_Society

   for background, and this link for the real thing:  https://platypus1917.org/project/statement-of-purpose/

Anyone who says "Frankfurt School" and who doesn't know about the Platypusses, has a gap in their knowledge.