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3 minutes ago, ener sanchez said:

i agree on that and i say we must preserve our culture and constitution for the next generations to enjoy ,we cant let this glorious nation fall !

Absolutely! Our constitution and are culture is being destroyed! It's very sad and disgusting, but we have not lost this battle. Nor will we! Unity is our key!!

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There are pockets of groups making a stand. In Raleigh there was a group that patrolled armed through downtown. The police were fine with them. There were some others that were pissed, but so what. Yo

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Being in the Militia is a huge undertaking. It

Here's what we need to deal with the sort of situation we saw in Tulsa:  an unarmed militia that could have gone and forced the AntiFa scum away from the gates. For that, numbers are necessary, plus a

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unity is key and the fact they want to demonize gun owners and parts of our culture is just sad to see , im not letting our youth turn anti American Ive noticed how the media wants people to see America as a horrible place and this war is not a violent one yet (hopefully never) but its a information war and we must be educated and well informed nowadays

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1 minute ago, ener sanchez said:

unity is key and the fact they want to demonize gun owners and parts of our culture is just sad to see , im not letting our youth turn anti American Ive noticed how the media wants people to see America as a horrible place and this war is not a violent one yet (hopefully never) but its a information war and we must be educated and well informed nowadays

I couldn't have said it any better myself.  Every round fired in anger should be considered a failure by all of us.

 

If we can't get more organized and coordinated than them we are going to lose, we have only one a handful of battles,  but we are not winning the war. 

 

We can't win without national level communication, and intelligence.  So far, I don't think we have enough of either! 

 

We can't coordinate well, social media gets flagged, YouTube videos are taken down, and we all know the problem. 

 

Except we refuse to see the problem is us. Every one knows the issues we face today, but who is working towards a solution.

 

Research groups.  We are forming a group of troubleshooters to address these and other problems you mentioned.

 

We will eventually be working in a coordinated effort in the cyber realm, for those of us who are able.

 

Please read my posts if you are interested in participating. 

 

-Ab Omnibus

 

 

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10 minutes ago, ener sanchez said:

unity is key and the fact they want to demonize gun owners and parts of our culture is just sad to see , im not letting our youth turn anti American Ive noticed how the media wants people to see America as a horrible place and this war is not a violent one yet (hopefully never) but its a information war and we must be educated and well informed nowadays

Yes that is one of the biggest things that I taught my kids! Is the fact that you need to always do your own research and realized that there's always two sides to every story no matter how you look at it or who is telling the story. There is a good saying that if you break history down into two words you get "HIS-STORY", and history is only written by the winner. Teaching our kids true history a true meaning of what it is to love your country and be proud of your family's roots! Because we are losing our heritage just like our culture and our Constitution and that is one of the biggest things that we need to teach our children!!

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4 minutes ago, GDF Stomp said:

Yes that is one of the biggest things that I taught my kids! Is the fact that you need to always do your own research and realized that there's always two sides to every story no matter how you look at it or who is telling the story. There is a good saying that if you break history down into two words you get "HIS-STORY", and history is only written by the winner. Teaching our kids true history a true meaning of what it is to love your country and be proud of your family's roots! Because we are losing our heritage just like our culture and our Constitution and that is one of the biggest things that we need to teach our children!!

we need more people like you to raise kids like that cause some households now a days don't give a damn what our children our being fed on the internet like literally they will believe anything on the internet or what the media says with little knowledge they can research themselves which ends up making them have a false perspective on life and our country

 

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3 minutes ago, ener sanchez said:

we need more people like you to raise kids like that cause some households now a days don't give a damn what our children our being fed on the internet like literally they will believe anything on the internet or what the media says with little knowledge they can research themselves which ends up making them have a false perspective on life and our country

 

Thank you! That means a lot to hear! and it is true it's very sad how some people parent their children or lack of parenting. It's something that I've never been able to understand. because being a parent is one of the most amazing and honourable things about life! And your children are your future you have to point them in the right path, and show them right from wrong. It doesn't matter on color, religion or sex! Anybody can be a good parent, and I think a lot of people have forgotten that or it's just easier to put them in front of the computer or TV... the social dividing that is taking place due to the media and internet and all their little messages that they push. Very sad

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20 hours ago, Trickshot said:

I can believe everything you said, i don't think you said anything I disagree with. It's amazing how people aren't particularly outraged...what will it take? Will people on MM finally be outraged when they have ANTIFA at their door, eyeing their daughters and talking about reparations? Will that be sufficient? Because obviously, a nation burning to the ground with new countries within our borders being created every day is not enough.

 

When ANTIFA says something, they actually mean it. That's a stark comparison with the militia at large (not all i'm sure, or at least I am hopeful)

So when they say little things like:

Reparations

Defunding the police

"kill white folks"

I believe them, and we all should, because obviously they are not messing around.

 

The Patriots among us are making me contemplate gender reassignment just so I can belong to a group that isn't all talk. I am absolutely sick to death of it.

 

Not to be rude, I have heard from several sources "well the problem is" or "well then this will happen" as an attempt at blame shifting so we can all sit on our dead asses until gangrene sits in, and ANTIFA storm the white house, pull the POTUS into the front lawn in his underwear and shove a knife straight up his ass just like ghaddafi . And you know what the militia will say?  "well, you know maybe we should organize a neighborhood watch, we don't want rambo types you know, the ones that want to do something, but I'm sleepy now, we'll talk about it after my nap."

I think your problem is you assume everyone sees exactly what you see and interprets it as you. We all have our own filters that make us interpret reality, plus some people don't have the mental capacity to discern fiction from fact. We're battling a multifaceted problem from multiple fronts. But we're definitely making head way in the last few weeks, especially with the ham organization, this will exponentially increase the flow of actual intelligence so we can form solid plans and see what's really going on instead of have a multi headed beast of an organization trying to fight over what direction to go and how to go about doing that.

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19 hours ago, Vachagan Robert Yengibaryan said:

We need to stop talking and just start gathering, meeting each other, discussing and planning 

All these forums are fine, but can’t move forward

why can’t we all in GA plan something nice, a nice gathering someplace acceptable for everyone. We can do it in a form of picnic, bbq, introduce ourselves, exchange phone numbers, emails, start taking for real. 
let start:

I live in suwanee. Any thoughts? And suggestions? 

We're getting it done here in AZ

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20 hours ago, Trickshot said:

I can believe everything you said, i don't think you said anything I disagree with. It's amazing how people aren't particularly outraged...what will it take? Will people on MM finally be outraged when they have ANTIFA at their door, eyeing their daughters and talking about reparations? Will that be sufficient? Because obviously, a nation burning to the ground with new countries within our borders being created every day is not enough.

 

When ANTIFA says something, they actually mean it. That's a stark comparison with the militia at large (not all i'm sure, or at least I am hopeful)

So when they say little things like:

Reparations

Defunding the police

"kill white folks"

I believe them, and we all should, because obviously they are not messing around.

 

The Patriots among us are making me contemplate gender reassignment just so I can belong to a group that isn't all talk. I am absolutely sick to death of it.

 

Not to be rude, I have heard from several sources "well the problem is" or "well then this will happen" as an attempt at blame shifting so we can all sit on our dead asses until gangrene sits in, and ANTIFA storm the white house, pull the POTUS into the front lawn in his underwear and shove a knife straight up his ass just like ghaddafi . And you know what the militia will say?  "well, you know maybe we should organize a neighborhood watch, we don't want rambo types you know, the ones that want to do something, but I'm sleepy now, we'll talk about it after my nap."

 

There are pockets of groups making a stand. In Raleigh there was a group that patrolled armed through downtown. The police were fine with them. There were some others that were pissed, but so what. You can't please everyone. The police actually told one little nuisance that if she kept going near them, she was going to jail.

 

There was the group that was recently down in Arizona trying to prevent some idiots from tearing down a statue. Then they saw a guy with a blue shirt who said something... I believe he was a civilian. The mob went after him, he pulled out a legally concealed handgun a put a couple bullets in one of the people. The militia immediately went to the aid of the person shot and detained / put a perimeter around the shooter to keep the mob from attacking him.

Imagine this situation WITHOUT the militia there. Mob member and shooter would have been dead. Police would have been there hours later when the scene cleared.

Of course the local politics didn't like the fact that the militia was even there. Questioned their being there. The police detained them, but they were released. The reason the scepticism is militias are not open with their community. They are like concealed handguns. You don't know they exist until they pop out and then you are surprised. Instead, they should be more like open carry. We are here, the police know us, the mayor knows us, we attend town hall meetings, we meet and greet with the public.

 

Then, if this same incident happened, there would be no scepticism. No detaining the militia members. Hell, they would be on a first name basis with first responders, the chief, etc. They would have been the credible witnesses to the incident.

 

MILITIAS NEED TO BE VISIBLE. BE INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY. BE SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY. SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.

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"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe.- Edmond Burke

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8 hours ago, Jake Duckworth said:

Im looking to get involved and join an organized militia in my state (Florida) but i'm having trouble finding anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. It seems like this is the time to come together God Bless

@ FloridaRifleman762

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10 minutes ago, SamNick1775 said:

 

There are pockets of groups making a stand. In Raleigh there was a group that patrolled armed through downtown. The police were fine with them. There were some others that were pissed, but so what. You can't please everyone. The police actually told one little nuisance that if she kept going near them, she was going to jail.

 

There was the group that was recently down in Arizona trying to prevent some idiots from tearing down a statue. Then they saw a guy with a blue shirt who said something... I believe he was a civilian. The mob went after him, he pulled out a legally concealed handgun a put a couple bullets in one of the people. The militia immediately went to the aid of the person shot and detained / put a perimeter around the shooter to keep the mob from attacking him.

Imagine this situation WITHOUT the militia there. Mob member and shooter would have been dead. Police would have been there hours later when the scene cleared.

Of course the local politics didn't like the fact that the militia was even there. Questioned their being there. The police detained them, but they were released. The reason the scepticism is militias are not open with their community. They are like concealed handguns. You don't know they exist until they pop out and then you are surprised. Instead, they should be more like open carry. We are here, the police know us, the mayor knows us, we attend town hall meetings, we meet and greet with the public.

 

Then, if this same incident happened, there would be no scepticism. No detaining the militia members. Hell, they would be on a first name basis with first responders, the chief, etc. They would have been the credible witnesses to the incident.

 

MILITIAS NEED TO BE VISIBLE. BE INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY. BE SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY. SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.

Yes we all go, that's why we're trying to standardize uniforms here in Phoenix with our section.

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Yes, and also share information with civilians who ask. Even give them a piece of paper with website address, what you are, what you are not, how to join, etc. It gives people a warm and fuzzy vs a shitty attitude towards the group.

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"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe.- Edmond Burke

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The shooting was in Albuequerque, not Arizona.  According to Dav Harzin, the FbI have released the militia people.

Now it remains to see who the shooter is -- it sounds to me like he was acting in justified self-defense against a vicious violent mob.

 

If so, we ought to take up a national defense for him.

You can get a lot further in life with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.

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3 hours ago, Doug1943 said:

The shooting was in Albuequerque, not Arizona.  According to Dav Harzin, the FbI have released the militia people.

Now it remains to see who the shooter is -- it sounds to me like he was acting in justified self-defense against a vicious violent mob.

 

If so, we ought to take up a national defense for him.

Sorry about that. Got it mixed up. I knew it was an A something.

Based on the video, I've seen 2 different videos of it... 3 or 4 people attacked him. One initially hit him very bitch like with a skateboard. He backed away, kept backing away until someone in black starting running at him screaming I'll kill you.

He got pulled to the ground and that is when he pulled out his pistol, stood and fired 1 shot at one of the assailants and missed, and another 4 I think at the guy in the black.

Seems very justifiable to me. He never pulled the weapon until it was clear that he was at a great disadvantage and did not have the ability to outrun the mob.

Personally, I open carry. I encourage others to do the same. That would likely prevent the whole situation.

Assholes like the group that ran after him do so because he seems to be an easy target, that's the only reason. When you have a handgun visible and you look like you might know how to use it, they will probably still talk shit, but attacking you is reserved for those that clearly have a death wish.

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"Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe.- Edmond Burke

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If this man is defensible, we should organize a defense for him.

 

 

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You can get a lot further in life with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.

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9 hours ago, Doug1943 said:

If this man is defensible, we should organize a defense for him.

 

 

He's already been excused of charges and they are moving on the protestor that assaulted him...

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4 minutes ago, Pauld2nd said:

He's already been excused of charges and they are moving on the protestor that assaulted him...

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Glad to see the truth came out quickly in this one!!

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19 minutes ago, Pauld2nd said:

That looks good!

IF by then the non-crazy part of America has gotten tired of these people, and there have been some incidents there, e.g. rapes and robberies , etc.   ... we might be seen as liberators.

These gatherings tend to attract predataors.

No guns, though.

Right now, we are in the phase of  theatre, not combat.

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1 hour ago, GDF Stomp said:

Glad to see the truth came out quickly in this one!!

The newspaper article above talks about an attack by him on a woman  and the same charge is made in the legal papers you can see.

If true, it was very stupid of him, for both legal and tactical reasons.  He may have gone there casually, and then couldn't stand seeing these rats destroying that statue with no police

to intervene.  Note that he not dressed for any sort of fight.

 

I downloaded half a dozen videos of the incident, and in one, you can see .... well, 'something' happening.  But it's not clear, in the one video which does have footage of this,

what has happened.

 

I'm in touch with his attorneys and I will keep everyone posted on developments.

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You can get a lot further in life with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.

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1 hour ago, Doug1943 said:

The newspaper article above talks about an attack by him on a woman  and the same charge is made in the legal papers you can see.

If true, it was very stupid of him, for both legal and tactical reasons.  He may have gone there casually, and then couldn't stand seeing these rats destroying that statue with no police

to intervene.  Note that he not dressed for any sort of fight.

 

I downloaded half a dozen videos of the incident, and in one, you can see .... well, 'something' happening.  But it's not clear, in the one video which does have footage of this,

what has happened.

 

I'm in touch with his attorneys and I will keep everyone posted on developments.

No I've seen multiple videos as well on a situation, and I never saw any attack on a woman. Looks like he was it self-defense situation. was their wrongs and rights done in the situation yes.. but it looks like that man was being attacked and he defended himself.. but I am no attorney.

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Let us hope.  When I read the quasi legal indictment or whatever it was, I had a sinking feeling, as it made it sound like he was the original aggressor.

I would still defend him even if he had been, but it would be MUCH better if he were not.

You can get a lot further in life with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone.

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4 minutes ago, Doug1943 said:

Let us hope.  When I read the quasi legal indictment or whatever it was, I had a sinking feeling, as it made it sound like he was the original aggressor.

I would still defend him even if he had been, but it would be MUCH better if he were not.

Very true but you never know how the media and so-called independent reporters are going to twist the narrative. To fit how they want it...

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On 6/16/2020 at 10:47 AM, Rev.E. said:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Being in the Militia is a huge undertaking. It is our responsibility to be our country's last line of defense against a Tyrannical Government. We are not the Aggressors. That is what the Democrats want from us. That is exactly how they get the fuel for their fire to push for more gun laws. Just my two cents.

Is a militia restricted to ONLY opposing a tyrannical government? 

 

BLM / antifa are indeed trying to topple the US, causing it to cease to exist. Maybe half of our government is in collusion with them. Generals have openly implied coup. We have no role? No duty?

 

The combination of legitimate protesters contrasted by paid agitators is EXACTLY what was done to Syria. And parts of our Country already look like Syria (or Somalia)

 

If We the People do nothing to stop it, it won't be stopped. Do I really need to spell out what comes after that?

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