unrest

[chris shackelford 8]

with all the unrest in the cities and violence i believe a war of some kind is coming.the people in the rural area control the food supply and other supplies into the cities it is time to cut that supply off

[Ovrclockd 50]

Not an option unless it is done in a controlled manner on our terms, hence this issue with all 50 state leaders needing to communicate with each other, but they are not...

 

With that said, the majority of truckers are already on board but would need a group to control the fallout from consequences both good and bad...

[chris shackelford 8]

my brother is a truck driver they have said they are not slowing down or stopping for so called protesres

[RevRifleman 1,512]

You don't starve American non-combatants to death - women, children, elderly.  Sorry bub.  End of story.  Not every person living in an urban center is a Marxist or member of Antifa.

[chris shackelford 8]

i know this just putting out there what might have to be done.i also refer to what sherman said before his march across GA.

[ROFCB Commander 664]

Until Georgia declares itself not a part of the United States (as it had when Sherman was tasked with marching to the sea), we can't abandon the good Americans within her borders. That goes for California, Washington, and even Oregon (though man it's tempting, given that they've elected the Ted Wheeler's and Kate Brown's that have turned their cities/states to shit). Nevertheless, we have American Patriots in those areas who can't just be left to the wolves...especially not hungry.

 

No...there are better ways. And we're getting the cart well ahead of the horse anyway. The war isn't yet upon us. If you want to go back to Sherman and the Civil War, think of what we're seeing right now as mere skirmishers. Those were the small units of men who were meant to slow or disrupt the enemy, cause him to rethink his plans, maybe force him to stop so the real battle took place on ground more favorable to the side the skirmishers were fighting for. These aren't the real soldiers, and this isn't the real battle. What we're seeing on television every day--though destructive and dangerous--are merely the useful idiots. This is the cannon fodder the real enemy is using to draw fire, test defenses and resolve, and shape the battle to come. They aren't the ones to try and punish with food embargoes, let alone the citizens in the areas being terrorized by these thugs. Those Americans are suffering enough as it is.

 

Rural people should definitely be making sure they and their families are taken care of; stockpiling food, making sure they have plenty for when the winter of our discontent is truly upon us. But other than that, they should be finding ways of easing the pain of those good Americans who are currently in harm's way. I'd send every American Patriot in Oregon a pizza if I could.

 

Though I wonder if that would amount to more than three or four pies, at this point. How did these nimrods at the helm of government in Oregon, Washington, Michigan even get elected?

 

Oh wait--I'm in Pennsylvania. We have Tom Wolf as Governor.

 

I guess my state is full of idiots, too.

[coffeebear 46]

5 hours ago, ROFCB Commander said:

Until Georgia declares itself not a part of the United States (as it had when Sherman was tasked with marching to the sea), we can't abandon the good Americans within her borders. That goes for California, Washington, and even Oregon (though man it's tempting, given that they've elected the Ted Wheeler's and Kate Brown's that have turned their cities/states to shit). Nevertheless, we have American Patriots in those areas who can't just be left to the wolves...especially not hungry.

 

As much as I agree with the notion of "don't punish the innocent," I think it's worth remembering that not everyone in Georgia favored secession.  Sherman's approach, though brutal, was effective, both through crippling Confederate supply lines, and in breaking the morale of the enemy.  It's also worth remembering that Lincoln wanted amnesty and forgiveness to get the Union back on track as a single nation, though these plans were sidelined by his assassination, but that's another story for another time.

 

For the moment, it's important that we realize antifa is conducting their own "march to the sea" and are also harming innocent people in the process.  That is an unfortunate, but unavoidable, consequence of war - innocent people will suffer.  Truman had to weigh the lives of countless innocent Japanese civilians in 1945, but the loss of life was unavoidable, and we all know what choice was made, and we've heard the stories of how many millions of lives that decision saved, weighed in the balance against how many were lost.  Looking at the histories of socialism and communism... Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong... hundreds of millions of innocent lives lost.  What reason have we to think that the rise of socialism in the US would be any different, especially given their current examples in Portland and Seattle?  If this devolves into actual war, we can't afford to be squeamish - and neither can we afford to become the other side of that tyrannical coin.

[ROFCB Commander 664]

4 hours ago, coffeebear said:

 

As much as I agree with the notion of "don't punish the innocent," I think it's worth remembering that not everyone in Georgia favored secession.  Sherman's approach, though brutal, was effective, both through crippling Confederate supply lines, and in breaking the morale of the enemy.  It's also worth remembering that Lincoln wanted amnesty and forgiveness to get the Union back on track as a single nation, though these plans were sidelined by his assassination, but that's another story for another time.

 

For the moment, it's important that we realize antifa is conducting their own "march to the sea" and are also harming innocent people in the process.  That is an unfortunate, but unavoidable, consequence of war - innocent people will suffer.  Truman had to weigh the lives of countless innocent Japanese civilians in 1945, but the loss of life was unavoidable, and we all know what choice was made, and we've heard the stories of how many millions of lives that decision saved, weighed in the balance against how many were lost.  Looking at the histories of socialism and communism... Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong... hundreds of millions of innocent lives lost.  What reason have we to think that the rise of socialism in the US would be any different, especially given their current examples in Portland and Seattle?  If this devolves into actual war, we can't afford to be squeamish - and neither can we afford to become the other side of that tyrannical coin.

I agree with every single thing you've said. My point was that we haven't arrived yet at the point where the good people in those areas must be sacrificed; we're dealing with the skirmishers, not the sixty mile wide army of destruction.

 

But that's coming, or worse. And when it does, there will be collateral damage.

 

As for how we know when that line has been crossed--I wish I was so wise as to be able to say. I just don't believe in my heart yet that it has.

 

 

I'm stealing your Heinlein quote, by the way. I'm definitely using that within my organization, to make it clear that we're the folks who oppose being controlled.

Edited July 21 by ROFCB Commander

[Cb85 136]

8 minutes ago, ROFCB Commander said:

I agree with every single thing you've said. My point was that we haven't arrived yet at the point where the good people in those areas must be sacrificed; we're dealing with the skirmishers, not the sixty mile wide army of destruction.

 

But that's coming, or worse. And when it does, there will be collateral damage.

 

As for how we know when that line has been crossed--I wish I was so wise as to be able to say. I just don't believe in my heart yet that it has.

Yep to all of that. 

Most conservatives live in the country if they don't they will move there when the stuff starts. 

All you have to do is turn the power off in the cities and the tyrants will have WAY more to worry bout than us racists 🙄

Can they protect all the power distribution areas??  How thinly spread will they be if they try??

just some out loud pondering there.

[ROFCB Commander 664]

If it breaks down into all-out war, I don't believe they have the numbers or the expertise to protect all of the assets they would need to protect; but I also don't believe they would be alone. There will be a foreign actor of some sort; Mexican drug cartels, MS-13, the Chinese Army...who knows. One way or another, though, it's going to be the American Resistance versus whoever it is who tries to make our country theirs. It won't be the blue haired teenagers and noodle-armed nimrods in black we're seeing now.

[Cb85 136]

9 minutes ago, ROFCB Commander said:

If it breaks down into all-out war, I don't believe they have the numbers or the expertise to protect all of the assets they would need to protect; but I also don't believe they would be alone. There will be a foreign actor of some sort; Mexican drug cartels, MS-13, the Chinese Army...who knows. One way or another, though, it's going to be the American Resistance versus whoever it is who tries to make our country theirs. It won't be the blue haired teenagers and noodle-armed nimrods in black we're seeing now.

True. Plus entire states would leave the union. Some like South Dakota that have nukes also the oath keepers would join us so 30% plus of the military would be on our side. Idk if any country would help. Civil war would probably collapse the US dollar.

so most country's would have lots and lots of their own problems to deal with including currency problems political holes left. Aggression from all the countries we are keeping at bay that want their close neighbors stuff.

 

come to think of it most city folk would likely die of starvation when money and trucking broke down.

Edited July 21 by Cb85

[ROFCB Commander 664]

1 minute ago, Cb85 said:

True. Plus entire states would leave the union. Some like South Dakota that have nukes also the oath keepers would join us so 30% plus of the military would be on our side. Idk if any country would help. Civil war would probably collapse the US dollar.

so most country's would have lots and lots of their own problems to deal with including currency problems political holes left. Aggression from all the countries we are keeping at bay that want their close neighbors stuff.

Honestly, if true American Civil War II breaks out, World War III breaks out. If China is not directly involved within our shores, they'll be messing with India or somebody. North Korea will be emboldened if they think we can't or won't defend South Korea. Russia will be meddling somewhere.

 

We are all worried about an American civil war; I think if we look at the greater picture, we could be looking at a true existential thing for the entirety of the human race, because WWIII without the protection of the United States could end up a nuclear meltdown of the highest order.

[chris shackelford 8]

i just dont like what i am seeing i believe this is armed insurection.

 

[ROFCB Commander 664]

1 minute ago, chris shackelford said:

i just dont like what i am seeing i believe this is armed insurection.

 

It would be hard to make that play legally until it's guns being fired en masse.

 

Marching with guns in hand won't qualify; throwing bricks and fireworks won't qualify. But shooting as a line? Maybe. That's one of the reasons we have to be careful to be responders after the fact, and after the primary lines of defense have been fired upon and are in need of our assistance.

 

Right now, I don't think we're in that territory--and certainly not (yet) with NFAC. Even if they show up in huge numbers with guns, until they start using those guns they're in the clear. We need to stay in the clear also.

[Kaser100 45]

Seems they are out to destroy the cities they live in. Why should we intervene ? The fact that trying to talk to them would take an entire staff of psychologist. Where do you go from that point? I say if their elected officials keep playing their communist card, they will have to live with the consequences of their destruction. No federal funds for reconstruction was a good chose from Trump !

[Constitutional Patriot 267]

1 hour ago, ROFCB Commander said:

I agree with every single thing you've said. My point was that we haven't arrived yet at the point where the good people in those areas must be sacrificed; we're dealing with the skirmishers, not the sixty mile wide army of destruction.

 

But that's coming, or worse. And when it does, there will be collateral damage.

 

As for how we know when that line has been crossed--I wish I was so wise as to be able to say. I just don't believe in my heart yet that it has.

 

 

I'm stealing your Heinlein quote, by the way. I'm definitely using that within my organization, to make it clear that we're the folks who oppose being controlled.

I am not wise enough to know when the line has been crossed where good people become casualties of war either. Let's look at history. Atlanta's population during the War Between the States was given an opportunity to evacuate before Sherman burned it down.  Can American Patriots be that charitable and humane if the time comes instead of permitting good people to perish? If that merciful decision causes American Patriots to lose this country to blood soaked communists looking to impose the worst type of globalist/communist tyranny on the USA, then sadly I think not. Sherman showed the  humane generous treatment to Atlanta's citizens because the Union was well on its way to winning the War Between the States. The reason I use the term War Between the States is because there were 2 nations with 2 governments during that time period. A civil war ( which is what is in its skirmishing phase here in the US) is fight for control of one government and one nation. Civil wars are far more vicious ( think Spanish Civil War 1936-1939 and the just ending Syrian civil war) than war between two nations. This civil war is likely to be far more vicious and bloodier than the War Between The States. Buckle up. But if we are prepared and unified, then there is still the slim chance of giving the globalist/communist traitors a knock out blow with only a minimum of innocent blood shed. ( Evil has to deal with the consequences it creates.) Each day that we delay preparing, organizing and unifying for decisive action on all levels  ( spiritual, emotional, informational, organizational and physical) the greater the odds of a long protracted bloody civil war with much innocent blood shed. Good news coming on this soon!

[Cb85 136]

4 minutes ago, Kaser100 said:

Seems they are out to destroy the cities they live in. Why should we intervene ? The fact that trying to talk to them would take an entire staff of psychologist. Where do you go from that point? I say if their elected officials keep playing their communist card, they will have to live with the consequences of their destruction. No federal funds for reconstruction was a good chose from Trump !

The problem is they are trying to convince the American ppl that our system doesn't work. So they can also convince them that hey look at this, this socialism works much better. 

Mall the while Not telling ppl that the reason it's not working is deliberate.  It's propaganda in action.

[Cb85 136]

4 minutes ago, Constitutional Patriot said:

I am not wise enough to know when the line has been crossed where good people become casualties of war either. Let's look at history. Atlanta's population during the War Between the States was given an opportunity to evacuate before Sherman burned it down.  Can American Patriots be that charitable and humane if the time comes instead of permitting good people to perish? If that merciful decision causes American Patriots to lose this country to blood soaked communists looking to impose the worst type of globalist/communist tyranny on the USA, then sadly I think not. Sherman showed the  humane generous treatment to Atlanta's citizens because the Union was well on its way to winning the War Between the States. The reason I use the term War Between the States is because there were 2 nations with 2 governments during that time period. A civil war ( which is what is in its skirmishing phase here in the US) is fight for control of one government and one nation. Civil wars are far more vicious ( think Spanish Civil War 1936-1939 and the just ending Syrian civil war) than war between two nations. This civil war is likely to be far more vicious and bloodier than the War Between The States. Buckle up. But if we are prepared and unified, then there is still the slim chance of giving the globalist/communist traitors a knock out blow with only a minimum of innocent blood shed. ( Evil has to deal with the consequences it creates.) Each day that we delay preparing, organizing and unifying for decisive action on all levels  ( spiritual, emotional, informational, organizational and physical) the greater the odds of a long protracted bloody civil war with much innocent blood shed. Good news coming on this soon!

That line is trying to disarm Americans. You can't fight back with with pitch forks.

"The beauty of the second amendment is it won't be needed until they try to take it away." Thomas Jefferson!

[Constitutional Patriot 267]

3 minutes ago, Cb85 said:

That line is trying to disarm Americans. You can't fight back with with pitch forks.

"The beauty of the second amendment is it won't be needed until they try to take it away." Thomas Jefferson!

Disarming Americans is the line. Do you think the St Louis communist states attorney did that to the couple protecting their lives and home from the BLM mob?

Edited July 21 by Constitutional Patriot
key omission

[Cb85 136]

11 minutes ago, Constitutional Patriot said:

Disarming Americans is the line. Do you think the St Louis communist states attorney did that to the couple protecting their lives and home from the BLM mob?

No we have the right to Own and Keep on our person arms.

 The states can regulate the use of arms. For instance some colonies did not allow the firing of guns in town just cuz.

the woman in question was pointing a gun at people which was illegal unless those ppl were also armed and/or were intent on harm.

there is an attempt by the left to take arms. Or rather an attempt to convince us it's a good idea.

 

when they try to do so wholesale the war has begun.

Edited July 21 by Cb85

[chris shackelford 8]

when it comes out of the cities into the rural area is where the line will be crossed

 

[ROFCB Commander 664]

12 minutes ago, chris shackelford said:

when it comes out of the cities into the rural area is where the line will be crossed

 

That will probably be well after the line is crossed. They're not going to leave the cities; it's their protection (politically and in numbers). By the time the fighting gets to the rural areas, the war will be very much underway and all "lines" will have already been gleefully crossed over.

[chris shackelford 8]

i consider this armed insurection that would give trump the right to federalize the gaurd.another question who would the military follow in a full blown war

[ROFCB Commander 664]

Not Trump. The upper echelon is Deep State.

[Guest Anon Cyb]

2 hours ago, ROFCB Commander said:

If it breaks down into all-out war, I don't believe they have the numbers or the expertise to protect all of the assets they would need to protect; but I also don't believe they would be alone. There will be a foreign actor of some sort; Mexican drug cartels, MS-13, the Chinese Army...who knows. One way or another, though, it's going to be the American Resistance versus whoever it is who tries to make our country theirs. It won't be the blue haired teenagers and noodle-armed nimrods in black we're seeing now.

Exactly what I've seen in visions, they will be also disguised as U.N along with actual U.N soldiers trying to take over.

Edited July 21 by Anon Cyb