Election realities

[ROFCB Commander 664]

I'm troubled at the moment by some realities I'm not sure Americans, even in-the-know ones like us, may be aware of or understand.

 

We talk of "who will win the election" and "what happens on November 4th". That used to be proper, but this year it is not.

 

Here's why--Joe Biden and the Democrats aren't trying to win. They know they can't. I'll repeat that for those in the back...they know they can't. Trump is nigh on unbeatable, particularly by a candidate as weak as Biden. And America is pissed. We were a little pissed when we elected Trump; we're ROYALLY pissed now.

 

Donald Trump will not lose this election.

 

And yet he may not be President on January 21st. Oddly enough, it may not be Joe Biden, either. So who will it be?

 

The Wicked Witch of the West. I'm not kidding--the President of the United States on January 21could be Nancy Pelosi...and that is what the Democrats are working toward. They can't beat Trump, but they can still eliminate him, at least long enough to create such havoc within our system that the nation never recovers.

 

How? By tying the election up so badly that it can't be solved before the current President/Vice President's term expires on January 20.

 

That process starts by not having all the votes counted. That process is aided by the fact that so many will be handled by the Postal Service (the same Postal Service that has endorsed Biden, and that is desperately wanting funds Nancy Pelosi is trying to get for them by holding up the latest stimulus bill). The USPS has already warned that "ballots will be late, horribly late, there's just no way we can guarantee timely delivery of them"...see the setup here?

 

Now mail ballots traditionally skew toward the Democrat, so even though Trump will be winning the in-person vote by a wide margin--nobody is going to declare Trump the winner this year. Not one chance in a million. It used to be that the press fell all over themselves to try to be the first to declare for a candidate. Not this year. They'll do everything they can to say "well, all the votes aren't counted yet, and it's conceivable that Biden could win...blah blah blah". Suffice it to say that the only one declaring victory for Trump on November 4 will be Trump himself. Unless...

 

...unless it's such a blowout--as in world-shattering, Reagan/Mondale blowout--on Election night. Even then, they'll try to hold it up, especially in swing states with Democrat governors. But if the margin is just abso-fucking-lutely HUGE, they may have trouble selling that.

 

That's why we have to work our asses off to make sure Trump wins by landslide. No ifs, ands, or buts about that...we, you and I, and every Trump supporter we know, has to be WORKING to make Trump a HUGE winner at the polls on the 3rd.

 

If we don't, here's how this plays out...Biden/Dems refuse to concede, saying that it's too close to call. They tie up the recount, tie up the election itself, and push everything until past January 20.

 

On January 21, Nancy Pelosi becomes President.

 

They can do it, too. Several swing states have Democrat governors (who can certify the election for Biden), but Republican legislatures (who can dispute the certification), which pushes it to Congress. Guess what? There's no clear-cut answer there, either. The Senate will claim it's their job, the House will claim it's theirs--and there's nothing absolutely specific that says one way or another. So who will decide?

 

Probably SCOTUS. But that body is pretty well evenly spit, too, leaving the entire thing in the hands of...

 

...John Roberts.

 

Yeah--it needs to be a landslide of EPIC proportion. Explain all this to your friends (everyone hates Nancy); unless they want President Pelosi, they'd better get out and VOTE and drag every Trump supporter they know to vote with them--especially in the swing states.

 

It's absolutely that important.

Edited August 16 by ROFCB Commander

[DasBlinkenlight 182]

One additional "hiccup" we can shoot for is ... we have to flip 20 congressional seats back to republican in unquestionable elections, and then the speakership goes republican on January 3rd, nullifying a Pelosi coup.... same rules and conditions apply... must be landslide victories for those 20 flipped seats.

[ROFCB Commander 664]

1 hour ago, DasBlinkenlight said:

One additional "hiccup" we can shoot for is ... we have to flip 20 congressional seats back to republican in unquestionable elections, and then the speakership goes republican on January 3rd, nullifying a Pelosi coup.... same rules and conditions apply... must be landslide victories for those 20 flipped seats.

I meant to add this but it was late and I forgot. As mentioned, though, it must be UNCONTESTABLE. These people know these districts down to the street level, and know where the weaknesses in the system are; we know they're going to cheat the Presidential part of it, but they'll cheat just as hard in the congressional races (and maybe harder, since losing the House would be absolutely disastrous for the Democrats).

 

I've said before and I maintain this--the red wave up and down the ballots should be monstrous, and the Democrats should be so humiliated by it they won't show their faces in public for months. But CHEATING NULLIFIES ALL OF THAT. And they won't cheat every contest, or even every place in the ones they DO cheat in. What they'll do is manipulate this street, that neighborhood, to make their "victory" fit within the realm of possibility and their cheating harder to detect.  This wasn't that complicated even twenty or thirty years ago; now, with machine learning/artificial intelligence, they can get so granular it would make your head spin.

 

Here's another consideration that everyone should be aware of--the age of poll workers.

 

We all think this new Covid scare is about suppressing the vote; it isn't. It's about suppressing the vote WORKERS. Poll workers average in age above 60. There is no "bench", and they're not just plucked from the street. They have to be trained, and they're all volunteer so it's even more problematic. The new COVID scare is designed to make poll workers think they're at risk of dying if they show up to collect people's votes. No poll workers, no poll. Instead of having 100 places for people to go vote, now they're down to 8. With that few polling locations, the Democrats know that people won't stand in line for hours just to cast a ballot. This is classic voter suppression, one of the oldest tricks in the book.

 

We all say we can't wait to vote, and most of us can't. I'd stand in line ON FIRE, if that's what it takes. But a lot won't. The Democrats are counting on that. YOU can count on the fact that the usual voting locations won't be open because there won't be anyone to work them. The solution to this is to firstly, volunteer if you can to be a poll worker. Second, volunteer if you can to be a poll WATCHER (those are the people who stand at the polls and watch for irregularities, like people campaigning at the poll (a no-no) or intimidating voters, or disrupting the process, or any number of other things). Third, be proactive in keeping the situation safe; take a box of masks and hand them out to people who don't have them. Buy a case of hand sanitizer and go from polling location to polling location dropping a bottle or two off. Anything and everything to make the poll workers feel safe in doing their job. But the key is to make sure that information gets out BEFORE ELECTION DAY. If you're going to do something like this, tell your local election bureau, your local Republican party people, and your newspaper. Get the word out.

 

We can't keep them from cheating or completely prevent them from suppressing the vote, but we can make it harder for them. And we must.

[Guest Hill Amplification]

I've been thinking the same thing.

[Guest O sleeper]

4 hours ago, ROFCB Commander said:

I meant to add this but it was late and I forgot. As mentioned, though, it must be UNCONTESTABLE. These people know these districts down to the street level, and know where the weaknesses in the system are; we know they're going to cheat the Presidential part of it, but they'll cheat just as hard in the congressional races (and maybe harder, since losing the House would be absolutely disastrous for the Democrats).

 

I've said before and I maintain this--the red wave up and down the ballots should be monstrous, and the Democrats should be so humiliated by it they won't show their faces in public for months. But CHEATING NULLIFIES ALL OF THAT. And they won't cheat every contest, or even every place in the ones they DO cheat in. What they'll do is manipulate this street, that neighborhood, to make their "victory" fit within the realm of possibility and their cheating harder to detect.  This wasn't that complicated even twenty or thirty years ago; now, with machine learning/artificial intelligence, they can get so granular it would make your head spin.

 

Here's another consideration that everyone should be aware of--the age of poll workers.

 

We all think this new Covid scare is about suppressing the vote; it isn't. It's about suppressing the vote WORKERS. Poll workers average in age above 60. There is no "bench", and they're not just plucked from the street. They have to be trained, and they're all volunteer so it's even more problematic. The new COVID scare is designed to make poll workers think they're at risk of dying if they show up to collect people's votes. No poll workers, no poll. Instead of having 100 places for people to go vote, now they're down to 8. With that few polling locations, the Democrats know that people won't stand in line for hours just to cast a ballot. This is classic voter suppression, one of the oldest tricks in the book.

 

We all say we can't wait to vote, and most of us can't. I'd stand in line ON FIRE, if that's what it takes. But a lot won't. The Democrats are counting on that. YOU can count on the fact that the usual voting locations won't be open because there won't be anyone to work them. The solution to this is to firstly, volunteer if you can to be a poll worker. Second, volunteer if you can to be a poll WATCHER (those are the people who stand at the polls and watch for irregularities, like people campaigning at the poll (a no-no) or intimidating voters, or disrupting the process, or any number of other things). Third, be proactive in keeping the situation safe; take a box of masks and hand them out to people who don't have them. Buy a case of hand sanitizer and go from polling location to polling location dropping a bottle or two off. Anything and everything to make the poll workers feel safe in doing their job. But the key is to make sure that information gets out BEFORE ELECTION DAY. If you're going to do something like this, tell your local election bureau, your local Republican party people, and your newspaper. Get the word out.

 

We can't keep them from cheating or completely prevent them from suppressing the vote, but we can make it harder for them. And we must.

It's very true. My sister and I started working at the polls the last two elections we had this year, and the county clerk is very happy to have young people working them. Everyone else is very old. What I've seen working them too is that the majority of people who voted are older as well. In the election earlier this August, we only had three or four new voters, and one of those was a guy in his 30s. We need to get younger people out to vote as well.

Edited August 16 by O sleeper

[Guest Fireeagle]

Mail in ballots should be illegal.  The theory here is sound. If you want to stay away from the polls, do an absentee ballot.  We’ve always been able to get to the polls during previous pandemics and wars. No reason for mail in ballots other than attempting election fraud.  Keep the senate and turn the house. 
 

Time to get rid of Pelosi, Schumer, the squad and the rest of the socialists. 

[NebUS75 135]

We can definitely expect troublemakers to try and block people from voting; especially in those districts where it going to be a toss-up on who will win. Each election cycle there seems to be incidents where someone or someone’s start trouble so voters can’t get to the polls. I expect that to be a bad issue this year— especially if Trump gets anywhere close to getting re-elected. 

[ROFCB Commander 664]

11 hours ago, NebUS75 said:

We can definitely expect troublemakers to try and block people from voting; especially in those districts where it going to be a toss-up on who will win. Each election cycle there seems to be incidents where someone or someone’s start trouble so voters can’t get to the polls. I expect that to be a bad issue this year— especially if Trump gets anywhere close to getting re-elected. 

This is definitely going to be the case. In 2008, Black Panthers showed up at the polling location where I was working as a poll watcher, dressed in full kit and carrying bats. Being there wasn't illegal, and while a case could probably have been made about the bats, there really wasn't much that could be done about it. They didn't say anything or do anything, they just stood there--but that was intimidation enough.

 

This year, a good use for militia units would be to do exactly the same thing locally. Don't interfere, don't campaign, don't say or do ANYTHING--just be present. Eyes and ears open, COMMS ACTIVE AND AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES, and 911 ready to be dialed on your phones. The point isn't to look for trouble, but rather to keep trouble from happening. And your imposing presence will counteract any intimidation of others.

 

Know the rules of your polling locations. Most don't allow campaigning of any kind--even wearing a button--within 100 yards or so of the poll entrance. That could be excuse enough to have police come out and send BLM/ANTIFA away. Make sure YOU'RE not violating those rules, though. Be quiet, but be THERE.

[Cb85 136]

I voted aug 11. 

Every one there as normal. They just had masks is all.

 

i go to a baptist church. No masks. Not one person wore a mask..... in a state that the dictator im mean governor requires them.

The game is up no one buys it any more by November hopefully the covid thing is old news. 

 

[NebUS75 135]

 

48 minutes ago, Cb85 said:

I voted aug 11. 

 

 

Just how secure are those votes ?? 

[Cb85 136]

9 minutes ago, NebUS75 said:

 

Just how secure are those votes ?? 

There were 6 ppl their plus others coming and going for other things. I saw a dem and 3 republicans at the booth. 

 

It was Business as usual.

i visited with some of them. Hung out there for 45 mins.

 

nothing suspicious. 

Some of them complained that this covid thing is ridiculous.

thats it folks. The dems don't own the voting booths except maybe in NYC and other liberal Shitholes and maybe not even there.  

I haven't seen any really good intel on it.

 

 

 

[NebUS75 135]

Sorry should of been more specific... you vote today and the vote is stored (somewhere) and no one but the voter knows what was marked on the ballot. How can someone be sure that the vote will not be altered by someone else during the time until the election ??? — (paper ballots can be replaced and we all know how electronics can be manipulated.)
I wish the voting was moved to an entire weekend and early voting was eliminated ... that way no rush to get it in on one day. 

[Cb85 136]

There are definitely ways to improve the system 

[Boom Stick 0]

USPS/voting ? http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat20200258338.pdf

 

Edited August 18 by Boom Stick