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why is it that antifa and blm so organized and we aren't?


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3 minutes ago, Wolfenstein said:

We several threads already on this very topic, I think you created one too. Hint Hint ūü§®

 

 

Well,  I going to keep posting it for it is PARAMOUNT to get this done or our small groups will be gobbled up in a heart beat plus  what are our goals as a whole?

 

Going back to what's really happening, why is it that antifa and blm so organized and we aren't?

 

I would like for you to just answer this.

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     I would say it is because they have millions to billions of dollars bankrolling them behind the scenes.  Whereas this site for example, is attempting to raise $7,500, and on this last day have gotten $450 from 11 people so far.  
     It also helps the leftists that they have the school systems of the nation on their side...from Kindergarten through University levels.  
     The majority of the following groups are largely in lockstep with the leftist too...Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Pro Athletes, The Judicial System, Fake News and The Deep State.  
     It is so far reaching, that I’m afraid there are only a few avenues left to those who want a moral, law-abiding Republic back.  
     A. Let it burn and self-destruct, then resurrect it from the ashes.

    B.  Divide the nation in two, as we are diametrically opposed to each other in a 50-50 deadlock.
    
     We will never vote or talk our Nation’s problems away.  Each side is convinced they are right, and neither will be swayed.

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3 hours ago, Carl H B said:

 

 

Well,  I going to keep posting it for it is PARAMOUNT to get this done or our small groups will be gobbled up in a heart beat plus  what are our goals as a whole?

 

Going back to what's really happening, why is it that antifa and blm so organized and we aren't?

 

I would like for you to just answer this.

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7 hours ago, BrianThePatriot said:

Because the powerful establishment are backing them and giving them free domain. Look at them as the Hitler youth or such that reek havoc for the establishment.

 

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What @Patrick He said is spot on. I will add. The left uses bats and clubs because they are told to. Melee weapons like that strike fear into people a little more than guns. Even me, in the sense, I'd rather die by a bullet than be beaten to death. Right? Make no mistake on their financial backing, fear is their tactic. Those groups have guns for when they are told to use them. Trust that. 

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Because they are actually out doing it instead of talking about it. They are not afraid of going to jail, they are willing to sacrifice whatever it takes destroy this country and they did it. In other words they wanted it more than we did. Sorry if this ruffles your feathers but that’s the truth. I wish everyone here the best,God  bless you and God save America.  Never stop, Never Ever quit and Never Give up !!!

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As has already been said, because they have money. They are using the weapons they are suing for a reason, not for lack of funds. No way to trace them or the weapons, do not get put on any lists, not going to trigger anyone if they see some lumber in a truck and a box of nails. No need to register. Not going to violate any gun laws. And on and on. They have teams of people doing spotting and attacks, and research and intel, and transport systems and teams. And they can operate without fear of interdiction because they have politicians and "important" people helping them and protecting them. They get a lot of info handed to them from outside sources. They know they will probably not even be arrested, and if they are, they will likely not be charged. They have funds to get them bailed out. And there is almost no chance they will be cancelled, loose their jobs (assuming they have one), be kicked out of school, or put on a no fly list, etc., etc.. They, literally have governments backing them, both foreign and domestic, as it were. And they have been preparing for this for a long time. 

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I think there is a 2 fold thing going on as to this question.   1. We Americans have always been individualistic in nature.   See what the Europeans  thought of our warfare in i think ww2?  They say our methods as organized chaos. and 2. we as a whole have become complacent and comfortable with our daily lives and not wanting to lose whatever we have gained to want to risk it on worthy causes.

 

This is just my 2cents but it is just a short though on the question on this thread.

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Well gov backing and space to do what they do (online organizing of events and DAs letting them go) is one thing but they also have a key component: They are very communally driven. Say a catchy chant and they repeat it like zombies. Very easy to direct and guide. Which also means they are very easily misdirected. 

Reminds me of the time a Black Bloc was directed to a bridge and kettled. The person who directed them was not ABC affiliated. 

 

However those who are more libertarian or classically Liberal (modernly known as a conservative) are very free minded and strong on their views. So trying to organize them is like herding cats. 

A solution to this might be having a set of guidelines for all groups to use. Base Gear, Base team/Squad organization and roles, Rules of engagement for all threats (outside and within), ETC.

 

 If there is a foundation there might be a higher chance to integrate normal people who are realizing the situation we are in. 

 

Perhaps getting a Minuteman's Field Manual written and in the physical world and distributed would be optimal.    

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Well if you ask law enforcement these groups are disorganized and not even controlled chaos.  They have the ability to communicate on Social Media openly under the guise of protesting against Social Justice.  Additionally anyone who stands against or disagrees with their hypocrisy is then immediately labeled a racist or white supremacist.  We are scared of being labeled either of these, even African Americans who disagree with them are chastised.  They also like mentioned earlier very well funded by liberals trying to prevent themselves from being labeled, because if you don't contribute you are racist. 

     George Soros is a huge contributor to any far left group with a socialist agenda or any group that creates instability within our Government.  He has reportedly funded transportation, housing and provided meals for many of these groups "protesting".  If you watch these groups they arrive on chartered buses together and have strategies developed enroute.  They are followed by a rental Uhaul or similar vehicle that carries all their equipment, baseball bats, water bottles, shields, masks, protest signs that are designed to be used as weapons, etc..  

They aren't really organized as they simply create mass chaos and destruction.  It really doesn't require planning or organization to show up someplace and just go batshit crazy destroying everything in your path.  The reason they are successful is because liberal leaders in liberal cities simply do nothing, they allow them free reign and should they be arrested, they are released without charges or acquitted by liberal judges.  They have absolutely nothing to lose, they don't have to worry about losing their job if they get arrested because they are unemployed. Hundreds of these turds were arrested then released without charges, liberal politicians simply decided to stop arresting them and just let them occupy their cities and show support for them.  It's how liberals secure votes, stay neutral and show support even if it's illegal and terroristic.  Notice how when a Patriot or Conservative steps up and stands against something they immediately cry RACIST and WHITE SUPREMACIST.  Just watch the impeachment hearing from Wednesday and the Libtards are screaming RACIST and WHITE SUPREMACIST during the impeachment.  You can't be scared of being labeled of something you are not.  

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5 minutes ago, 5.56NATO-M183 said:

Well if you ask law enforcement these groups are disorganized and not even controlled chaos.  They have the ability to communicate on Social Media openly under the guise of protesting against Social Justice.  Additionally anyone who stands against or disagrees with their hypocrisy is then immediately labeled a racist or white supremacist.  We are scared of being labeled either of these, even African Americans who disagree with them are chastised.  They also like mentioned earlier very well funded by liberals trying to prevent themselves from being labeled, because if you don't contribute you are racist. 

     George Soros is a huge contributor to any far left group with a socialist agenda or any group that creates instability within our Government.  He has reportedly funded transportation, housing and provided meals for many of these groups "protesting".  If you watch these groups they arrive on chartered buses together and have strategies developed enroute.  They are followed by a rental Uhaul or similar vehicle that carries all their equipment, baseball bats, water bottles, shields, masks, protest signs that are designed to be used as weapons, etc..  

They aren't really organized as they simply create mass chaos and destruction.  It really doesn't require planning or organization to show up someplace and just go batshit crazy destroying everything in your path.  The reason they are successful is because liberal leaders in liberal cities simply do nothing, they allow them free reign and should they be arrested, they are released without charges or acquitted by liberal judges.  They have absolutely nothing to lose, they don't have to worry about losing their job if they get arrested because they are unemployed. Hundreds of these turds were arrested then released without charges, liberal politicians simply decided to stop arresting them and just let them occupy their cities and show support for them.  It's how liberals secure votes, stay neutral and show support even if it's illegal and terroristic.  Notice how when a Patriot or Conservative steps up and stands against something they immediately cry RACIST and WHITE SUPREMACIST.  Just watch the impeachment hearing from Wednesday and the Libtards are screaming RACIST and WHITE SUPREMACIST during the impeachment.  You can't be scared of being labeled of something you are not.  

Sure but they didn't call the protesters on the 6th White Supremacists or Racists. They were called Domestic Terrorists. The language has changed, and the laws being proposed are gonna back it. Don't like what Biden is doing? You're a DomTer. That's going to put a ton of pressure on normal people and its when they snap that bad things happen.

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On 1/13/2021 at 2:19 PM, Patrick He said:

     I would say it is because they have millions to billions of dollars bankrolling them behind the scenes.  Whereas this site for example, is attempting to raise $7,500, and on this last day have gotten $450 from 11 people so far.  
     It also helps the leftists that they have the school systems of the nation on their side...from Kindergarten through University levels.  
     The majority of the following groups are largely in lockstep with the leftist too...Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Pro Athletes, The Judicial System, Fake News and The Deep State.  
     It is so far reaching, that I’m afraid there are only a few avenues left to those who want a moral, law-abiding Republic back.  
     A. Let it burn and self-destruct, then resurrect it from the ashes.

    B.  Divide the nation in two, as we are diametrically opposed to each other in a 50-50 deadlock.
    
     We will never vote or talk our Nation’s problems away.  Each side is convinced they are right, and neither will be swayed.

And they have their own political party and we don't,we rely on a party of gutless turn coats that change with the public opinion that is included in the swill offered up at the trough where the media propaganda masters slop with their well fed piglets. We need to use our numbers to get The PATRIOT PARTY established where we can level the playing field.We need to be on the offensive side for awhile.We can get organized in the light of day at a legitimate pursuit rather than lying back in the shadows.

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