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59 minutes ago, Anon Cyb said:

Like stated, believe what you want, I do not do drugs, nor do I disbelieve it! I have been shown the truth it's why it's hard for people like you to believe this exist...

You're too busy trying to impress people with... whatever abilities you claim to have.  You've offered absolutely zero constructive data, as far as I can tell, but you have so, so many claims of having been "shown the truth" - or some variation on this concept.  You're lying, you're full of shit, and you're more interested in your own glory than in people actually understanding anything remotely approaching the concept of Christianity.  Congratulations, you're another fucking worthless narcissist.

Mods/Admins: If you want to chastise me for my statements here, just fucking ban me.  If you're more concerned about protecting self-righteous bullshitters who want people to be impressed with whatever "supernatural abilities" or "God-given prophetic visions" than in actually developing groups that can be taken seriously by rank-and-file Americans, groups that are willing to do what it takes to secure the concepts of freedom that this country was founded on, and groups that aren't beholden to the endless onslaught of laws that are designed to not only limit those freedoms, but limit your perceived ability to do anything to stop the progressive Marxist-liberal agenda, then I'll be deleting my account anyways.

58 minutes ago, LetFreedomRing said:

No personal attacks on other members please, no reason for that.  It's fine to give constructive criticism but be civil about it and direct it to the actual material not the poster.

I don't believe there's a legitimate reason for incoherent, demented religious propaganda, either.  This isn't a church, militias are not manned only by Christians, and this level of insanity is going to drive away people who are more level-headed, intelligent, and focused on the task at hand - which isn't hairbrained theological conspiracy theories.

Given my own feelings on the matter, I'd say it's probably driving away the more serious Christians, as well.

26 minutes ago, Anon Cyb said:

They don't ban me because I help them smart one!!! You like many have no idea who I am truly, and the good society's that I've affiliated with! I'm talking those against the Cabal I stand with A.K.A the Dragons, based from the heart of Japan!

I honestly can't tell if this one's a troll, or if he actually does enough drugs to believe this stuff...

19 minutes ago, The rev said:

I've already had commitments from state and national leaders from the modern minutemen of America, the 3%ers, etc. As well as politicians on the local and state level. I'm just now opening up the few remaining seats to anyone that wants their voices heard...

I hope you're planning on recording that... would be very curious to see all the people that show up, and to hear what they have to say.

20 minutes ago, The rev said:

.. and making an announcement so that group leaders that want to act have the chance to mobilize in their home states. 

That's not what you said.  You said you guys were the ones planning to have people organizing rallies.

41 minutes ago, The rev said:

If you're more of an action person, we plan to have people organizing rallies in your home states on the 11th.

You're disorganized, you haven't communicated, and here it is, a month out, and nobody knows what's supposed to be going on.  Bold move, going with the "flash mob" approach.

You're a month out from a supposed American Revolutionary Congress 2.0 and nationwide rallies the day following...

... and you're intentionally not telling anybody yet?  Good luck with that.

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I really try to be respectful, but it's poor planning like this - and being proud of it - that leads me to believe that America has already lost - its corpse just hasn't reached room temperature yet.

If anybody here wonders why nobody takes us seriously?

It's because of shit like this.

Who was our enemy in Vietnam?  If you think it was the Vietnamese, you're wrong.

Who was Russia's enemy in Afghanistan?  If you said the Afghanis, you're wrong.

Who is our enemy in the current riots and NFAC/BLM marches, etc.?  If you said the people rioting and marching, you're wrong.

23 minutes ago, chris shackelford said:

who will our military go with

We like to think the "true patriots" in the military will refuse to obey orders to impose tyranny on the masses, but that's likely not the case.  Not because they're traitors, or because they're evil, or anything of the sort.  Rather, it's basic human psychology to obey authority - even when the acts they are performing go against their morals.  Moreover, you've heard the adage that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, but few realize how horrifyingly true this statement is.

Much like the patriots who fought the British 250 years ago, I expect we could count on the support of perhaps 3-5% of active duty personnel - assuming that 3-5% is all currently stateside and not deployed, unable to play a role one way or the other.  This also assumes a scenario in which they are able to be mobilized on US soil, against US citizens.  Why do I put such bleak hope on their faith to the constitution they've been sworn to defend?  Again, basic human psychology.

5 hours ago, ROFCB Commander said:

Until Georgia declares itself not a part of the United States (as it had when Sherman was tasked with marching to the sea), we can't abandon the good Americans within her borders. That goes for California, Washington, and even Oregon (though man it's tempting, given that they've elected the Ted Wheeler's and Kate Brown's that have turned their cities/states to shit). Nevertheless, we have American Patriots in those areas who can't just be left to the wolves...especially not hungry.

As much as I agree with the notion of "don't punish the innocent," I think it's worth remembering that not everyone in Georgia favored secession.  Sherman's approach, though brutal, was effective, both through crippling Confederate supply lines, and in breaking the morale of the enemy.  It's also worth remembering that Lincoln wanted amnesty and forgiveness to get the Union back on track as a single nation, though these plans were sidelined by his assassination, but that's another story for another time.

For the moment, it's important that we realize antifa is conducting their own "march to the sea" and are also harming innocent people in the process.  That is an unfortunate, but unavoidable, consequence of war - innocent people will suffer.  Truman had to weigh the lives of countless innocent Japanese civilians in 1945, but the loss of life was unavoidable, and we all know what choice was made, and we've heard the stories of how many millions of lives that decision saved, weighed in the balance against how many were lost.  Looking at the histories of socialism and communism... Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong... hundreds of millions of innocent lives lost.  What reason have we to think that the rise of socialism in the US would be any different, especially given their current examples in Portland and Seattle?  If this devolves into actual war, we can't afford to be squeamish - and neither can we afford to become the other side of that tyrannical coin.

Not sure if you guys saw this yet.

No clue what kind of trained numbers you guys could put up, but it'd be an interesting opportunity.

Might want to look back a little further in history.

1 hour ago, O sleeper said:

But I think your wrong to not think about the future. Isn't that how we got in this mess in the first place?

I never said don't think about the future.  Let me spell it out for you.... I'm not dumping resources, time, energy, or effort into a specific candidate that may not be viable in 4 years.

Yes, thinking long term, generally, is important.

Thinking long term with specific individuals in mind, with as fleeting as life can be, is pointless.  Aside from the malice of others, accidents can and do happen.  Health issues can pop up out of absolutely nowhere, as anyone who knows who Grant Imahara was can attest.

I'll worry about 2024 when it gets here... this poll assumes America still exists in 4 years.

As for the "What if Biden?" question... if he does win, then after his second year, I predict a "health issue" will befall the poor man, and his VP will then be able to not only carry the next 2 years of that term, but run for election in 2024, and possible reelection in 2028.  Individuals are limited to ten years as president... not two terms.

Last year, a film was quietly released that recounts one reporter's attempts to uncover the truth about the death toll in Ukraine that resulted from the dekulakification of the region.

I thought this forum would be the best spot to put this, considering the historical material of the film...

7 hours ago, Dave shepherd said:

the Black Liberation movement may have began as a political ploy but I doubt their members have been told this, they have destroyed millions of dollars in property killed innocent people including our First Responders and they are a real threat that is growing everyday . Black lives matter may have started out as a political hoax but it has taken a life of its own and it is a real movement that is having a call to arms and is growing everyday... The desire to punish the rank-and-file? Make that statement to the people who have lost family members and property to this group!

Of course the rank and file HAVE been told this... quite explicitly... remember, these people are democrats.

They're being told that once their side is in power, life is going to become a socialist utopia... tax the rich and distribute to themselves... the ones pulling the strings, though?  The politicians, the news media - of course they have other plans, but what Franklin said is true... the masses have realized they can vote unto themselves the wealth of others, and so ends the republic.

This is part of the reason why voting privileges in the Constitution were provided to people who owned property - not men, and not whites, though they made up the lion's share of property owners - because it was assumed that people who had their own wealth would be less inclined to vote in favor of taking wealth from others.

Trust me, I have a deep hatred for people who, on one hand, claim to care about others, and claim to want to help others, and then destroy businesses that employ people who are trying to feed their families, and murder people because they're just frothing at the mouth and want to take part in the carnage.  But these people are drinking the kool-aid that's been fed to them by the Clintons, and the Soroses, and the Pelosis, and the Sanders of American politics.  Targeting the rank and file, the ones throwing rocks and burning police cars... Yay, go us?  Wave a little flag?  Have a parade?  Then what... the politicians and media outlets that are driving these riots are still in power, and the next wave of rioters comes through... how long would you like to repeat that cycle?  How many other innocent families get mowed down in the chaos?  How many of our own do you think we'd lose in the process of securing that hollow victory?

Sure, it'd make people feel good... righteous indignation, instant vengeful gratification... but that's not the way to secure lasting peace - it just spreads the misery around so everyone has to soak in it.

3 hours ago, Dave shepherd said:

We should not let ourselves become victims of hate and racism...

Wake up, bud... this has nothing to do with "hate" or "racism" - this is a political maneuver for power.  Make no mistake, this is an almost verbatim repeat of the Bolshevik Revolution that led to the deaths of 30-40 million Russian people.

2 hours ago, Anon Cyb said:

... happen to our brother's and sisters who stand for all lives!!! We must stop this shit once and for all! Or they will keep acting like fuckin animal's and keep doing the shit!

You need to learn what apostrophes are used for if you want anyone to take you seriously.  I understand that this ineptitude is prevalent everywhere these days, but to pluralize a word in English, you generally just add "s".  The apostrophe is used for contractions (it is = it's) or possessives (Bob's car).  When you use an apostrophe in a feeble attempt to pluralize a word, it just highlights your ignorance and makes you look like a moron.

Oh, and a desire to punish their rank and file?  Bud... the protestors aren't the problem... their leadership, their funding, and their communication channels are the problem.  It's like I said to Dave... this isn't a racial issue... it's a political one.

I don't think it should be used... it's a family that's torn apart, not a photo op.

The problem is, some hothead somewhere is going to do something stupid, like shoot a black protestor in response, when a better option would be someone like George Soros, since the whole BLM uprising has nothing to do with race... the black community is simply being used as a human shield for the far left to push a socialist agenda.

Very little coverage in the MSM, and what's there doesn't convey all the facts.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/indiana-mother-shot-and-killed-following-argument-over-black-lives-matter-family-says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUuivm5Fo-I

The racist, socialist left is winning this war.

1 hour ago, Rev.E. said:

If the Militia is to take matters in to their own hands because they believe there is a real threat to our county it is against a Tyrannical Government. We are not here to slap whiney liberals that want their way. Only those who have sworn an oath truly understand our purpose.

The rioters, the ones tearing down statues and defacing the streets with graffiti, even the ones that took over Seattle for a few weeks... I do not see them as "the enemy."  Their existence and their behaviors are the manifestation of the agendas of evil people, but this approaches a topic that exceeds the scope of this thread.  If a milita were to take matters into its own hands (which I believe is the only way a militia is ever going to become active) then its actions against either a state or federal government entity likely will begin within the confines of a single state, but these sorts of events have a way of evolving in a fashion that will likely see other militias in other states taking similar actions, and eventually ignoring the artificial boundaries of state lines.

28 minutes ago, ROFCB Commander said:

What we call "Militia"--most of our units, I would say--would flip their lid if they understood the implications of this. Most of us see ourselves as the final bulwark for the citizens AGAINST encroaching government, without realizing that we're actually part and parcel to it.

 

In actual practice, however, Militia has been abolished. What we have is a collection of "military clubs" that attempt to cloak themselves in Militia-oriented jargon and legalese in order to protect themselves from over-reaching authorities (it's a strange choice, but the legal landscape is so muddy that it seems to be as good cover as any other). The "Constitutional unorganized Militia" label that so many units place upon themselves is just one example of this; it looks right when you tear sections from various Constitutions (both the federal and assorted states'), but in terms of ACTUAL "legality" it's highly questionable.

And that is my point...

Again, this thread is tending towards something more along the lines of "What would a modern day civil war look like?" - but you're right... the militia, as a state-sponsored actor, is defunct.  When things turn hot - assuming one doesn't categorize the current examples of isolated violence directed at our nation's history, its citizens, and its municipalities as acts of war - what is the duty and responsibility of a militia based in, for example, Illinois, when the local government of St. Louis begins confiscating firearms from its law abiding citizens?  Or worse, begins arresting and executing citizens deemed to be too much of a threat due to political opposition, much like Stalin's NKVD?

I'm new here... my opinion is worth nothing....

But if you look at the sequence of posts, GLCsector3925's comments were not directed at staff members....

Unless there are deleted contributions I'm not seeing?

I joined this website because I'm in favor of.... "eliminating" the far left.. violently, if necessary... peacefully is preferable, but at this point, we don't always have that option

I should take a moment to clarify that I believe the cops... the boots on the ground... are simply doing what they've been told to do.  Yes, that's the excuse Nazis used during the Nuremberg Trials, but evidence suggests that obedience to authority is legitimate, even while conducting immoral actions.

Incidentally, the rioters are functioning in a similar capacity.  Actively fighting them doesn't address the problem of where and who is giving them their marching orders.

If "the government" (governor, president, etc.) is the only entity that can activate you....

... and your function is a last line of defense against a tyrannical government....

 

There seems to be a conflict between a State Militia's direction and its director.  The way things are going, the only reason a governor would call you up seems, to me at least, to be to put down people who are trying to overthrow the tyrannical government that is currently forming.

The police are not on the side of law and order anymore.

They have not been since the first riots were started over "racial injustice" decades ago.

If bans are handed out on this site for "inciting violence" then I should probably be disposed of relatively soon, because I maintain that our government is not, AND HAS NOT, protected law abiding citizens for quite some time.  I'm in favor of offensive maneuvers, and i'm in favor of defending people standing in their own private property with their own private firearms.

Ban me, or let's overthrow this totalitarian socialist regime.

Fuck these people.. not the rioters, but the "government officials" that are oppressing them.