LibertyorDeath93

5 hours ago, Naga Dilaut said:

 

As training officer for Deplorables Militia,... Basic Rule ,.. Think it's 3 or 4,... Don't use perjoratives. You are among intelligent hardworking and caring people,... Mostly.

 

Admittedly, the strategy and tactics that have been used over the last 20 years havent worked. Recruiting is not prolific and attendance of those recruited gets even more rare as time goes on. I can tell you haven't had much face time with established militia units. It's tough. Wanting to make a difference and knowing you can't do it alone.

 

Perjoratives will do nothing to win you friends. Influencing people, oh sure... It screams that you have to insult people to action. That action is usually away from you. 

 

Mikey, take a breath. Tuck in your shirt, tighten that belt, roll those sleeves up( youre making me gonads sweat) , do 10 push ups, and try that approach again. Ifn you dont wanna do any of that., well , I guess there in is the problem.-Sea Dragon

Ok your right I shouldn’t insult anyone. That’s my bad. But it got the reaction I needed to get. To get the info I need. I already have plans. I’m trying to involve others in these plans. I was trying to get a last minute convention I get it. It’s hard to do. But I was already having a meeting somewhere at the proposed time. I was willing to change the location to include others. No what’s happened over the last 20 years hasn’t work. So it needs to be changed. My people and I will no longer stand back. We have contacted Portland PD to help the UNARMED. We have contacted many PDs we are not of many numbers but we are of strong willed hearts with true faith in our country. We live for what we believe and we will die for it as well. My wife is pissed. That’s not our home you could get hurt. Blah blah blah. Well guess what it’s not our home yet but could be soon. So I stand for taking a stand and showing who we are! UNARMED no guns no nothing. We will defend however Necessary even if it means we get hurt. Is what it is. Pick up your teeth put them back in your mouth and go on to defend another day. No I haven’t had much face time with militias but I have had much face time in other things. And let me tell you what’s happening today is beyond political. This is an attempt at government overthrow. Complete tyranny and it what’s we are supposed to stand for. We need to defend it. 

7 hours ago, Naga Dilaut said:

Liberty needs to run for city council! That's the answer! 

 

Yo Liberty! The choice of perjoratives gave me an idea. Whats the chance you have two buddies to help you run for city council in your ao? Yeah it is to late to file for this election. Heres the plan..., after the november election you and your buddies keep a copy of everything in the minutes of your local city council meetings. Everytime they vote on something you dont care for write a critique of it and make 100 copies of it and distribute them on the tables in the public area of post offices and other businesses like tractor supply that have bulletin boards. 

 

Keep doing this for a year. Then create a patreon page for donations. Then with your regular critique post an announcement that you are running for city council place whatever. Your buddies should live in different council districts and do the same thing as you. Then once you are elected reverse as much of the red tape as you can that you had issues with.

 

We do need passionate people who care about our country and communities to get elected and reverse this trend.

 

What do you think? You up for that?

I’m a county commissioner and business owner. No need to run for something lower than what I have. And I’m running again this year with no worries in my head I’ll win it again. But I’m putting my campaign on the back burner to go help the PD in Portland because I feel it’s more important to serve and protect than it is to pass budgets all day long

And a position of leadership would qualify under county commissioner? 

19 hours ago, RevRifleman said:

Your passion is admirable. 

 

But, who are you?  I'm glad that you're a hard worker.  But, again, who are you?  You've been on here for what? Two weeks? 

 

Do you have a unit?  Do you have Military or Law Enforcement experience?  Have you ever held any significant position requiring the use of leadership skills (aside from being a business owner)?  Again, who are you?  I keep asking that because you seem to be under the impression that you can just shout and people will blindly follow you.  Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to say you're going to hold a National Convention of Militia Units in one weeks time?  Do you have any idea how many Militia groups there are?  Do you think the leadership of the Three Percenters, Light Foot, Oath Keepers, Sons of Liberty, or any other significant Militia group in this country is going to send representatives to a meeting being held by some guy that nobody knows?  

 

It's easy to go spouting off, mocking people, and calling them sheep. 

 

I'm not trying to jab at you. I'm just trying to give you some perspective.  And you need to take a breath and consider that a bit more.  

 

As per your: Leary of the guy who says let's talk this out in person? 

 

-Bro, you're late to the conversation and you have given no reason for any of us to think you're worth listening to.  Things like OPSEC and COMMSEC are additional reasons why people aren't going to respond to you.  Just because you don't see it... that doesn't mean it isn't happening.  It just means it isn't any of your business.

 

 

 

See Rev I got what wanted here. Everyone is communicating. I have been with in my community busting my ass to put people together. We’ve been in contact with multiple people. Many of which are friends of mine in the house and senate. We are trying to put a group to volunteer to help the Portland PD. Nobody knows who I am because I don’t want it known. My name on here is enough. I’ve spoke with many people across the country. Portland PD needs help and their not getting what they need. No I haven’t been in the site long and I’m not sure how much longer I will be. Going to Portland UNARMED  to help the PD. Everyone that replied if they read it all would see I said just to chat in person. Like our forefathers. But that’s obviously more than anyone can handle the reality of what might be going on. I’m not hear you jab or insult anyone. But every one here claims to be the wolf the alpha but nobody has showed one time they want to actually be that. Everyone is worried about their jobs money and family well if shit keeps going this way you won’t have any of them to worry about. So yeah I’m back to the communities of people who really want to do something other than reads computer screen all day 

12 minutes ago, DasBlinkenlight said:

Some people work for more than 5 hours.

Some people are leary of a stranger who starts shouting "we have to act now..."

Some people are waiting to see more details. (Like when... what location)

 

 

Ok so here’s the deal. I’m an independent business owner I work 12-16 hours ever day. While I see people on here 10-12 hours a day. Yes I have free time to be able to do this stuff but that’s because I built my business that way did you? 
we are all strangers to each other so your Leary of the guy who says let’s talk about what happens if we have to take a stand let be prepared and ready for that day.  Leary of the guy who says let’s talk this out in person? The your the sheep your Leary of your own shadow. 
 

and where and when I’m trying to set up. I want an easy place for us all to be able to reach. 
 

so here’s the deal. Either you are a sheep and hide behind your computer or your a wolf ready to attack when needed. Either you coward away from fire or you run towards it. If you can sit here and watch what is happening and be okay with it your not a fuckkng american. 

I posted this 5 hours ago and 20 have viewed it. Not one has even replied. Your sheep hiding behind your computers and phones. Wake up it’s time to come together. They have already divided our country by race. It’s time to grab the few of us there are and start making plans. I’m not saying act but plan. WAKE UP QUIT BEING THE SHEEP!

Follow me into the darkness brother and I will lead you to the light!!! 

So it’s my opinion that we need to hold a convention of all the “Leaders of Our Militias”. We are to divided and we will fall that way. So I’m proposing to host an event in one state but for everyone. Where we can all come together and actually talk and debate things instead of making forms. That is how our forefathers did it. They held events to talk about what the real goal is here. How do we know that one radical Malitia won’t just open fire on unarmed citizens and protesters. Thats where we need to come together and talk about things. Then you go back to your states talk about things with your people then you gather again to chat. Anyone interested in this drop your info in my inbox or on the thread. 

I say we have all already been spending to much time talking the talk and bitching about shit on the internet. It’s time that we stand the fuck up. Why in the hell are a bunch of men on here pretending to play militia men but when they time comes we have actual terrorist in our country and you don’t want to stand up for it. I’m holding a National militia convention in Atlanta Aug1-3. If you want more in inbox me. If your tired of this shit inbox me. If you just wanna keep playing militia men games all day don’t inbox me. 

Grand Rapids Mn here. Actively train everyday. Need a place to shoot to knock off some rust. Otherwise active daily in some sort of areas. 

5 minutes ago, TIMK1975 said:

I got your back... trying to get something going here in Omaha; but slow is an understatement. No one seems to understand the first shots have already been fired. 

Agreed I’ve got your back as well send me a private message we can talk further that way. The first shot has for sure been fired. 
 

Follow me into the darkness brother and I will lead you to the light 

I will have to go check the ranges and look into it some. Of coarse they’ve had all our outdoor ranges closed since COVID-19 started. But yet the indoor range remains open. What sense does that shit make? 

1 minute ago, Saiga308snipe said:

Might want to start reloading I got plenty of 308/ 30-06

I don’t know the first thing of reloading my own. I’ve got plenty of 308 myself but only sitting on a small amount of 5.56

Looking for best places to buy bulk 5.56 that is not currently sold out. 

On 7/18/2020 at 9:08 PM, TIMK1975 said:

Totally correct... I believe that if this mess continues into the Fall and Winter months there will be individuals and/or groups who say “enough”. History is rife with individuals taking matters into their own hands because they thought that it was the only choice left to protect what they cared about most. The most prominent one I can think of right this moment is the attempted coup against Hitler in 1944. Men and women clearly loyal to a country did everything they could to save it at great expense to themselves and their families. One mans terrorist; is another mans freedom fighter. 

Thanks for taking my side there brother. I appreciate it. I’m not an extremist. I’m an extreme example of what an American can achieve with hard work. And if we wait till fall or winter to start putting thing together it could be to late by then. We could already have a communist for a president. We can’t let that happen or we will be at war with our own armies. 

1 hour ago, Cb85 said:

You are assuming two things what I mean by "godly" and that I don't mean what I say and am a man only of words. You are incorrect on both counts. 

We are more closely aligned than you think.

I’m not assuming anything. You referenced the word wrong that’s all you got to say there. And if your a man of word and we are that closely aligned stand by me

follow me into the darkness and I shall lead you into the light! 

1 hour ago, ROFCB Commander said:

Zeal and commitment are admirable; but what stand can you make (alone or otherwise) at this moment? Where? What day, time?

 

Everyone here believes in and honors the same oath you do. And we all share your concern and intense desire to "do something". But until that mission is clearly defined, you're just putting yourself in a rowboat and paddling out into the middle of the ocean.

 

What intelligence do you have to act on that the rest of us haven't seen? If your answer is "none", then perhaps that's the "stand" that you can take in this moment--because it's sorely needed. I've made the call for two weeks now for someone to make a focused effort to infiltrate ANTIFA comms (but you can substitute BLM, NFAC, or CNN for that matter) so we can gather ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE upon which to plan maneuvers. We may not be able to get inside their leaders' channels, but I refuse to believe we can't plug into their primary force-gathering communications tools (Facebook pages, Twitter accounts) and gather REAL DATA that supports their REAL PLANS. All I've seen to date are fuzzy references to their overarching plan, and the disinformation they plant for us to chase so we look like long-tailed cats in a room full of rocking chairs.

 

In the meantime, the rest of us are building; and that is as it should be. I don't want to go into this fight with less force than I'm capable of putting on the field, especially when I know I'm already outnumbered and in a technologically inferior position at present. If the intelligence says that's what must be done, so be it--I'll take ten farmers with slingshots into the battle before I'll sit and do nothing. But I have no such intelligence at this moment, and no such imminent threat to face down--so I'm going to use my time to build a better organization, etc. That's how I make my stand, at this point in time, with the information I have at hand.

I’ve got the plan and I’ve got all the details. Fool proof plan.  No not to infiltrate anyone. They’ll come to you. 

25 minutes ago, Cb85 said:

You would be hard pressed to find a single page of written work by George Washington where he doesn't quote scripture or refer to god.  

I know the public school doesn't do well in teaching history but you'd do well to read some of his works you'd be surprised.

thomas paine wrote George Washington and asked him to be more of a divinest rather than lean so Christian in his views. George was so offended by the notion that he never spoke or wrote back to Thomas again.

I’m a history buff I know all about it. I’ve been studying history and warfare tactics for 20 years. But because he was a strong devote Christian does not make him godly. Godly means “to be one in the form of a god with excessive powers”

powers like strength or speed not power over a country. George Washington was not godly he was a Christian and probably rolled in his grave at the thought of people thinking he was godly like his god was and is. I get what your saying but your saying it ass backwards man. And guess what George Washington to his god to the battle lines with him when he set off to fight the British. Washington is an icon because he took action not hiding behind some militia website talking shit and doing nothing. When he spoke he spoke words of truth and wisdom and he meant every word. 

46 minutes ago, Cb85 said:

I'm saying if you do everything you just stated but you come off like an asshole as your doing right now. Then the cause is better off if you are sitting around in the woods jacking off.

who we are is more important than what we do.

we absolutely should be doing all of the stated above but be doing it with humility willing to hear other ppl out. 

Trying to reason with ppl not beat them over the head.

george Washington was described as one of the most godly humble ppl in history.

thats y ppl followed him, the ppl understand Who he was on the inside.

strength of character is far more important than just winning an argument.

 

If you think people followed Washington because he’s godly you can stay in the woods and jackoff for all we care. If you don’t want to stand for what’s right for your country that’s fine but don’t come here and tell us we will be doing it wrong! And don’t tell us our first president was godly none of us ever met him. I can write a book of lies and pass it on after I die as well to make people believe shit. Anyone can. Yeah I believe he probably was a kind caring person but not godly. People followed him because he was smart and fearless because he wasn’t AFRAID to die for his cause. Seems to me many on here are afraid to die for their cause. 

On 7/15/2020 at 4:18 PM, Edward Lewis said:

When the day comes, that militias have to stand up and fight.....state lines will be of little consequence

When the time comes? Is everybody on here fucking kidding? The time came the minute an innocent child was murdered because they believe they should be given a part of our country for themselves. They will kill and loot until they get what they want. Your going to sit here and tell me it’s not time to stand for the oath that many of us took? Or is that oath just a joke nowadays? I took it I stand by it. And I will make a stand even if done alone. 

PM me if your sick of this bulls hit and ready to make the stand. If I can get enough people together we can meet them there and keep traffic flowing efficiently 

46 minutes ago, Saiga308snipe said:

Draw them into a remote area to cut of there supply chain then they can be taken easier, how build a statue or something they would get worked up over as bait

It would work. And work well. Cut them off their trapped. They either surrender or starve. 

9 minutes ago, Rev.E. said:

Let me try to explain. In the States Militias, we have a duty to our states first. After that comes everything else. Our Governor can call us to arms if needed. The only person who can call us all to rally together is our Commander and Chief, President Donald Trump.

 

Technically our function is our Countries last line of defense against a Tyrannical Government. Other than that we are here to assist our states in any and all natural disasters. That is the Mission of the true Militia. Now, there are So-Called Militia groups who do not follow the guidelines of "A Well Regulated Militia". They are Patriots just the same, but lack some of the true knowledge of what it truly means to be a part of the States Militia.

 

Most do not follow the true ranking structure of the Citizens Militia. They are just Patriot groups. The III% are one in the same. To be in a real Militia you completely understand and accept the laid out rules and regulations. You are Sworn into the States Militia and you have a real Militia designation within your state. We are the 19th Tennessee Infantry, 1st Div. A Company. We have several others who have similar designations. That is a true Militia. We will recognize other groups with the word Militia attached to them, but we know they follow no structure such as ours. I am in no way putting down any Militia group in any way. I am just explaining from the rules of the militia. I hope that helps. God Bless America

 

Captain,19th Tn. Infantry

Thank you that does help me a lot. But it then leads me to ask you if Only our commander in chief can call us to arms what’s the military for because he could call them to arms just as easily. 

24 minutes ago, Saiga308snipe said:

So your saying bait them

Just be prepared. And make some noise to let them know we are still here and will stand for what we have to. 

6 minutes ago, Dave shepherd said:

It is tempting but It will do us no good at this time to make a move because even though they have no involved the NG yet they will call on them if we get involved, we should train, stock up on ammo and wait untill the time is legal and favorable.

Awh see I didn’t say grab your guns and start shooting at will. That would be bad. I said make some noise. We need to all come together and get organized have a national meet the way they do all the time. It will make headlines and there is our noise. Or something or the sorts anyway. 

Funding will come in due time. And it will come on it’s own. Once the noise that we’re not going to be pushed around happens. Stand up and make some noise.