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7 minutes ago, Cb85 said:

Right now in the legislature we have 1 representative for every 350,000 ppl or so. That's not much representation. Originals there was 1 legislator for every 10,000. That means we would have 35,000 representatives right now if they had not changed it.  The representation would be much closer to the ppl and its much more difficult to buy off 35,000 representatives.

 

also senaters used to be appointed by the legislatures so they (the senate) was not as influenced by the common people. Thereby insulting them from the passions of the time!

 

also in the 17th & 18th century the voting age was 21 so the less mature could not vote.

 

also the law stated at the time only men who owned a minimum of 1 acre of land could vote in national elections! Imagine the difference if that was the case today. 

 

In closing the real issue isn't with our form of government but with the poor changes that have been made to our nations most important document! 🇺🇸

My opinion is there should be one representative from each state. Then the state would put forth what the people are asking for and voted on and such but with we the people with final say. The issue is the entire platform is so manipulated, corrupted, and well think of it like a pan that has baked grease on it for years n years.... even if you could get control and try to get things back to how it supposed to be, that grease will be on the pan as its set in a baked on and would still be an issue. Only way to solve it is clean the slate and start over with a new pan since the original one is ruined, sorry not the best analogy but works lol

5 minutes ago, mmurdock82abn said:

 

That's why I'm going from church to church every week trying to rile up Christians. I'm explaining to them that the reason <we're> they're being targeted and infringed upon is because the constitution specifically states that our rights come from God, if they eliminate the church or make them so fearful that they refuse to stand up for themselves, then the constitution is null and void because the persecutors will say they've disproven God and did it so effectively that Christians wouldn't even stand up against their "facts". Without God, we have no rights because there was never anyone to give them to us to begin with.

 

I'm really trying to turn this into a religious movement in my area, and hoping it spreads from there. Militia leaves a bad taste in people's mouths due to propaganda and the actions of a few misguided souls, turn it into a religious movement with people in the church willing to take up arms, then you've really got something that honestly can't be ignored or dismissed.

The problem is with religion and I'm Catholic, is again, you see these people on TV I have holy water and con all these people into spending money on them. Religion is freedom you can do based on your beliefs. Which I love, as if everyone was the same and agreed in everything this world would be boring. 

It's corrupted and been twisted, manipulated so much these churches get all this money from we the people. How I was raised and mind you this my opinion and if I step on any toes or hurt feelings it's not intended, I am a blunt person and believe in truth. How I was raised and values going to church every Sunday and donating to the church was the church was your go to place, to talk to God, rely on people in your church, be friendly to others, protect your family friends and people from harm/evil.

Alot of churches aren't like that anymore. It's like they read a small verse from the Bible and then they're like oh btw we need money.  That's bugs me. Again it's a huge subject and we should keep the religion aspect to basically do you believe in God, kinda thing. As again there is many different beliefs and interpretation on it.

Churches have to much power, especially the ones on TV, where you have these so called priests/ministers/pastors living in mansions and or living the high life. That's a subject I won't go deep into as each person has their own beliefs and is entitled to them. I firmly believe that insulting a person's belief isn't being a good person. Each person is different

And yes I understand churches survive off donations and such. Your idea is sound and I totally understand where your coming from and on alot of aspects you are correct as there is alot of good churches out there that are about the people and help their own with alot if awesome people. Definitely something to think on to get everyone on the same page which is our freedom.

Again if I insulted, offended, or pissed any of you off wasn't my intention it's just my view and it opinion. This is what makes us great, the ability to be different and still have the same goal 

13 minutes ago, mmurdock82abn said:

 

I personally would give anything to see things go back to the way they were in the days of the pioneers and the wild west. Where a man relied upon himself, his family, and his firearm. Where everyone was pretty much their own government to a point, and you didn't need to ask permission to live your life the way you saw fit.

My wife and I were just talking about that, we agree with that. Where criminals of violent natures were hung and dealt with. That's another issue is our criminal system. We have a dear friend of ours who was convicted of something he didn't do, and sent to prison. So he sits in prison for rest of his life on here say and no hard facts or proof and because when he was a teenager he got in trouble they used that against him which is not right.

That's not justice. that's manipulation. If someone is in jail for murder lets say. If there is 100% proof they did do it and its solid evidence without any doubt. They should be immediately executed. Not oh he is insane, or whatever. He knew what he was doing. Not sit in prison because oh wait it's not the right thing to do or its inhumane to execute. Im sorry he killed someone so waste money on a criminal who is extremely violent and if put back into society would murder again.

MANY people in prison who don't deserve to be there. Wrongful conviction, framed/setup to be in prison, non violent crimes of people being in prison for years and I mean years that shouldn't be in there, yet a person with no record can go kill someone and be out in 7 years.... Seen it plenty of times... i'm sorry if you commit murder, that's it you bought your ticket to a end of a rope. But again has to be 100% solid proof. I've seen people in wisconsin who got to  many speeding tickets put away in jail for 10 years.... really? (no  joke)

The entire system has to be wiped and rethought up by US not the political asshats on both sides

10 minutes ago, Cb85 said:

We need to bring back the house committee on unamerican activities and kick a whole bunch of ppl out. 

That wont happen though.

The Congress and Senate need to be abolished. The whole government way is too corrupted to fix and repair.

If we the people decide to keep Congress and Senate, then there needs to be strict guidelines in how long they stay in office and a limited number. No reason to have THAT many people in Congress. Now I won't go into detail what my thoughts are as far as that aspects go but you get the general idea. The president if doing a great job should be able to stay in office until he Is deemed unfit or he feels it's time to retire.  Congress and Senate should not be allowed in office more than one term. Again this won't eliminate corruption and greed. A new setup needs to be done with everyday people.

Having so many presidents in office is part of the problem as you have one thinking this way, another thinks a different way, etc etc. Then again it's a wonder if he's there for so long will he become corrupted. 

There is alot that needs to be done and alot that needs to be amended to correct everything. The people are suppose to be in control. So how do you root out corruption, deception, greed, and power mongers.

3 minutes ago, ROFCB Commander said:

The generation now is paying for our complacency, and America will fall on our watch because we refused to get involved in the things we knew were desperately wrong (our school systems, universities, politics in general, too many Chinese goods, the list goes on and on) when we had the chance. We all now want to say "rise up and fight"--but this is trying to close the gate a month after the horse escaped. Rising and fighting now is about survival, holding on, hoping that Superman or the Lone Ranger shows up in the nick of time to save us. But if that doesn't happen (and Donald Trump is the closest thing we have to someone wearing a cape with an "S" on his chest), it's more than likely lost already.

 

And if, by some miracle, we manage to save it--we sure as hell better not get comfortable in our chairs and start watching the NBA, buying more Chinese crap from WalMart, and allowing the commies to babysit our children six or eight hours a day yet again, because that's what's gotten us into this mess. THAT is what we have to change about ourselves and our way of being. Until we accept that Facebook and Netflix and The Washington Post don't (and never did) have our best interests in mind, and eliminate those horrible institutions from our lives, this nation will always be at risk of imploding in on itself...because these evil people will not quit until they win.

It's never too late to turn the tides. However anyway this election goes. If Trump wins, LEFT gets worse and does nothing for our country, can't rise up in voice when it falls on deaf ears. If Biden wins, which I don't even want to think about. Its a double edge sword for us. Either way its doom for us as far as the radical LEFT and what needs to be done. The system is too corrupted now to hope for a change without a cleanse... I hope I'm wrong but the way stuff is unfolding, since we are in a cold civil war right now.... I just see it unfolding into what we all think it's going to unfold into. WHich its almost to the point now it needs to happen to purge the tyranny and wrong doers out.

Also I agree with what you're saying and as I said before, it's time to Change it, and take out the trash.

1 minute ago, ROFCB Commander said:

I wish EVERY American could have listened. We wouldn't have had Obama. We wouldn't be in the mess we're in now, at least not as badly as we are now (because McCain was just Obama lite).

That's the problem now, us being i was born on 1976 and other people born in the area. We would, the generation now, on which the LEFT is focused on would not. Ashame, it will take a war to fix everything and to root out the evils that plague this country. And the new generation doesn't deserve the brainwashing they get from our schools and government oh you shouldn't be defiant, and such. Let the government take care of us as the government knows what's right for us..... Well we all know that's a load of horse shit.

6 hours ago, NebUS75 said:

I agree... unfortunately due to the liberals they will be given whatever resources they need (at taxpayers expense of course) to cause as much trouble and inconvenience as possible to everyone (Especially Republicans). 
This b.s that the right to assemble and protest somehow translates to harass, assault, loot and burn buildings needs to be stopped. It is like most young people nowadays just want the country to fail. 

Well I have noticed how the schools teach kids nowadays. How it was when I went to school is they taught you basic fundamentals to life, how to balance a check book, social differences, how to be self sufficient, you have a disagreement with a bully at school, you stood up for yourself and maybe got a detention for fighting. They taught you what you needed to know to live life and be alright and to do for yourself. I mean there was alot more but thats the basics of it.

Now? You stand up against a bully, the bully gets a slap on the hand and the person standing up gets in more trouble, cant stand up for ones self without being targeted as a trouble maker, draw, say, write, anything related to standing up for your rights, Ive seen kids pretend playing guns get suspended, one of my kids said to the teach oh man heads are gonna roll, and the teach calls up my wife and says he threatened to kill her. ( no I am not kidding).  I mean, they are from the start making the young generation like sheep and herding them to NOT be defiant.  Now look at BLM and Antifa, filled with whites, blacks, asians, latinos, etc etc. and if you notice most are 25 and younger. 

What does that tell you? They are using a brainwashing type technique in our schools to take away what we all stand up for, Freedom, Liberty and well being how we all should be. They tear away the passion, and the fight which we were known for. For not taking crap and standing up for what we believe in.

What can they do when people turn their head and dont stand up? Exactly what they been doing now. Tearing and dismantling this country piece by piece to keep the ones (US) who will rise wool over our eyes hoping we wouldn't notice. 
 

Time to stand, Time to fight. Lets take out the trash...

btw the basic is setup im adding the plugins now for it

3 minutes ago, KatRosiland18 said:

Y'all think KIK and Tik Tok and Facebook are bad mewe is at least 3 times worse then those

Mewe is ran by far left, supports pedos, anti 2A, has issues with not being able to yank known sex offender accounts, has FBI as mod accounts. I had mewe and it's not a good site to be on. Y'all do you but I refuse KIK and I refuse mewe. 

Thats why im setting up the server I have with a facebook style setup and we can see how well it handles stress and such and create something thats better than what is out there without all the garbage of being censored, banned for stupid stuff and not belittled, or surpressed

I will send messages after i get it setup on the server for the URL. Which Ill do in a few here shortly, need to get the server setup for it.

And on top of that won't be run by some greedy snot nosed think he can stomp on us like Facebook, Instagram and Twitter do

1 minute ago, Ideological Gambler said:

I can see about getting some people to test it if you want.

Yea I'm sure Eric here would test it too. It's almost identical to Facebook and will work good I think.

Just now, EricB1956 said:

I use MeWe exclusively for over a year now. Got tired of being banned on Facebook every 30 days.

 

 Some people just don’t have a sense of humor.

MEWE is confusing and most people want simplicity. I use to be a facebook addict and then this year came along.

Just now, Ideological Gambler said:

Im game

Ill get the basic engine setup and we can bring over people we can trust to stress test and test out

1 minute ago, Ideological Gambler said:

Probably some. With FB doing its last ban ive been seeing tons of new accounts. Some have to be moles. We have ways of finding them now in our group, and a couple of trusted guys who wont stand for moles 

FB is a waste of space and dangerous now. I could make a Social website easily, I have servers and such and can filter through moles and snitches, it would be like facebook but controlled by freedom/liberty patrons like us. And no filter on your opinion, no banning, etc etc.  MEWE is confusing and I dont like how its setup. 

Just now, Ideological Gambler said:

Probably some. With FB doing its last ban ive been seeing tons of new accounts. Some have to be moles. We have ways of finding them now in our group, and a couple of trusted guys who wont stand for moles 

No moles are bad, its like having a snitch which is also bad. I despise both types.

Just now, EricB1956 said:

It would take me several months, if not longer to trust anyone, I’d hope everyone else here is the same way. Last thing we need is another Ruby Ridge because some antifa asshole set us up.

 

 Sorry for the foul language, but this crap pisses me off to no end. I’d like to meet up with some of y’all, but now I’m on Defcon 2.

Just no togas LOL

1 minute ago, Ideological Gambler said:

No its not just you. Damn near tore our group apart. Then she wanted to say no one was serious because no one gave her info. She has been out of the group for over a month and I brought those messages and the Antifa guys message about her working with him to site admins and asked what they wanted to do. She got the boot

Good call, makes me wonder how many more moles sneaking around....

Just now, Ideological Gambler said:

Good job on not doing that. She was supposed to be updating our mymilitia page for KAP, and making a roster of the lightfoot units with screen names and their preference of contact. Not the book and total info BS. That was done on her own accord with Antifa members. 

Let antifa show up on my front lawn.... just let em... I'd be singing the antifa bottles on the wall song from my scope. 

1 minute ago, EricB1956 said:

Neither did I. No fucking way. The sad thing is, crap like this brings the trust level down to zero, and probably not just me.

That's exactly the issue why there isn't large militias , no one can trust anyone. Everyone goes rogue but for this movement to work has to be overcome. Based on what we have talked about and yes its brief, my gut says your legit but as you say can't confirm that until we meet face to face. Just who I am and the way I am. Trust is earned not given.

2 minutes ago, EricB1956 said:

Go figure. Go fucking figure. I KNEW there was some shady shit going on when I got this. Made the hairs stand up on the back of y neck. I’m not putting my family’s life on the line for that bullshit.

Hence why i never gave her any info.

Oh I bet, I'm not questioning security one bit, I just know there is more moles on here, so it pays to be cautious as the main reason they are looking into this website and many others like this is intel and who is gonna be silenced or deemed as a threat when its the other way around, is just that to stop what is going to happen either way. Its a long time burning torch that finally has gone out. That's what makes it hard to get a solid trust worthy group of people together, for training, planning, and learning as a group  as you dont know who your talking to alot of the times until it's too late.

Good thing Im extra cautious, as I expected antifa and BLM to be infiltrating and trying to turn people to their cause. People think this stuff is a joke, and its not. Hence why Im all about Freedom and Liberty. Id assume they wanted info to pinpoint who is in what where they live so they can go silence them. They would have a hell of a time showing up to my families house

3 minutes ago, 1/51 November said:

KAP 2 Antifa spies and has helped to form 2 units as well is having its 5th meeting and 2nd field training tomorrow. If you mean the spy who they had removed from the site as trouble forming then I would reach out and clarify what your concern is. They agree you, it would be foolish to not network with a group that shares your ideals, has law enforcement backing and has already taken a stand in the state because you believe in an Antifa spies word. Just saying that thinking as you stated is why units have trouble organizing locally.

Oh really? I was told to contact SHurrie and I did. How did they find out she was antifa?

1 minute ago, EricB1956 said:

I’ve always been partial to the Toga Party myself.

Ok I want you all to lay down your arms and lay on the ground...... ( gust of wind blows up our togas).... Geezus Eric I told you to wear some boxers at least when we have these things on