MarcusAurelius

Yep just stay home if you're not located in an area where mobs are marching down your street burning homes. If that's likely, be somewhere else. Don't mix with the rioters. Past Nov 3 the gloves come off. If you defy curfew, if you're a  part of a riot, then your part of a coup and  the police will have orders to open-fire shoot-to-kill, so  be prepared to pay with your life if you think you're  going to bully this nation into submission.

 

We are NOT going to let this nation succumb to blackmail or an Obama "color revolution".  If the police  have to kill Americans trying to stage a coup d e'tat, well, freedom isn't free. This is as real as t gets folks. Be prepared.  

3 hours ago, LetFreedomRing said:

 

 

Si vis pacem para bellum

 

This. 

NOTE:

The post that this pot below was a reaction to was deleted by its original author, who recently joined (a week ago) and had zero previous posts:

 

 

The reason you couldn't form any orignal rejoinder to my post, but instead had to copy and paste it, changing a few words here and there, exactly goes to the problem at hand: the Left has abandoned the practice of critical, original thinking as an activity. They have specifically  targeted reason itself as a " tool of white oppression".  They're not just incapable of original thought, they affirmatively despise it and they despise anyone capable of it.

 

In fact, they despise anyone capable, period.  Violent, rabid hatred of anyone  successful, even in a small way, is one of the chief motivating forces of the Left.

 

That is why mere equality under the law isn't good enough for them anymore- they need equity, which is equality of outcome.

 

The reason for that is, they're miserable, serial failures,  and, as the mugshots of antifa show, much more ugly than just chance would predict. They're failures at the task of being alive and making their way, and they know it, so they demand that everything simply be given to them.   

 

What we're seeing in Portland and Seattle and NYC and elsewhere is a mass aggregate of low functioning  narcissistic  borderline personalities who are attempting to get their way the same way a toddler does- by screaming and breaking things and threats.

 

Their narcissism is the reason they  refuse to engage or even know their opponent's arguments and  is also the reason it never registers with them that dressing in a uniform and descending on innocent people, shrieking at them, demanding  that those people  say what they tell those people to say and that those people perform their movement's salute is not just not eeirly similar to what the Nazis did,  it's  exactly what the Nazis did.

 

Their borderline personality  is why it never occurs to them that smashing the windows of store fronts as a way of  intimidating a specific, targeted  population  followed by demands for absolute political control is not just eeirly similar to what the Nazis did, it's exactly what the Nazis did. 

 

10% of the population has an IQ at or below 85. That means 10% of the population is functioning at such a low level the army cannot find any task for which they can be relied upon, no matter how trivial, and consequently they are forbidden to join. 15% of the population has an IQ of 90 or below and that means they are functioning at such a low level they may not  learn to read well enough to  function as an independent adult in civilian society.

 

In a population of 330 million Those are huge numbers- almost 50 million people. A large number of those people also suffer from narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy and are consequently  susceptible to  malicious prodding by the Left which incites them to be jealous, covetous and believe they are losing in life not because it's an even playing field and they are less capable but  because some other group has rigged  the game against them and that other group must be destroyed. 

 

 

This is exactly what Communism and and the Left always does; it identifies  the one source of medical, scientific and material progress in a society- the independently minded, productive and capable people- and targets them for personal destruction.

 

Thus the famines in the USSR. Thus the famines in Communist China. Thus PolPot in Cambodia and Marduro in Venezuela and antifa in Portland.  Thus the gulags and re-education camps and the mass killings of last century at collectivist's hands- last tolled at 150 million people. 150 million people all murdered, starved and worked to death because of a single Utopian vision named collectivism, Socialism, Communism. 

 

At some point it has to become apparent to everyone that collectivism is a disease. Not an idea, but a mind parasite which takes over its host and drives it to destroy its own society. At some point society is simply going to say no more genocide, no more concentration camps, no more mass murder, just..... no more. 

 

We don't  need to wait any longer for the results of this repeated  experiment we've run over a century now- the results  are  in and the same every time.   It's a dangerous disease of the mind and we have to  crush once and for all or we simply won't survive as a species. 

 

Get ready. It's coming. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Freebird1 said:

I have read articles that proclaim Chinese troops are in Canada and Mexico already as well as movement of supplies stationed via shipping containers west and east coast.

Freebird, I don't know where you got this information but off the top of my head, for what it's worth,  it is very hard for me to believe that we would permit the CCCP to set up shop in either of those nations. 

 

Look, the CCCP is a racist, genocidal Communist dictatorship. That's not a great selling point to Mexico or Canada. You have to think they prefer the US to continue to exist and not make their respective countries military targets of the US. 

 

I can't believe the IC community is either so psychopathic corrupt or imbecilic - and it would have to be one of those three- as to allow the CCCP to start building bases in Mexico or Canada. 

 

I am only saying this to give you some pause for thought and  perhaps some relief from worrying that this might be true - just so  you can go back to worrying about all the other things which are actually going so horribly wrong with one of  this nation's political classes, lol.....

 

 

What they are thinking is they'll invade Taiwan if the US devolves into civil war. 

 

This is what happened to Europe when the Muslims invaded. The Europeans  had warred each other into exhaustion, then they could barely fight off the Turks. 

 

Hopefully people in the military hierarchy- God knows it's not our generals who are just corporate careerists and politicians at this point  and it's not the CIA who are partisan criminals with an exaggerated sense of their own necessity , but someone realizes that permitting this nation to devlove into civil war in an attempt to stop Trump from another 4 year term will be a death sentence not just for Taiwan but for the West in general. 

 

 

The left has so much to lose this election they're willing to do literally anything include deconstruct the country itself  through street warfare and even coordinating and colluding with nations like China.. They will do absolutely anything, anything whatsoever,  to prevent Trump's 2nd term. 

 

The reason being,  the alternative to a Biden Presidency looks like this:

 

* Obama, the first black President, charming, erudite, and appealing  is also found to be 10x more corrupt than Nixon. He may not go to jail, in fact, he won't, but it will be established for a fact that he subverted and used the intelligence agencies of the United States to illegally spy on, undermine and then try to eject from office his party's political rival. That's banana republic level shit and  Ii's the one thing above all others they can't let happen: Obama's reputation ruined to history. They'll kill half this country  to make sure that alone doesn't happen. 

 

* Clinton spends the rest of her life being investigated and sued, She has perhaps 10 more years to live before her health collapses and every second of  that time is going to be spent thinking about her lawyers and trying to avoid the circus  court appearances would unleash. Another ruined reputation, with 100% certainity. The entire party is going to collapse. 

 

* Biden disappears from public view 6 months after his loss and it is later shown that he is suffering from the begininning stages of senile dementia.  This will mean that the Democrats engaged in what is effectivvely elder abuse throughout the 2020 election which in turns confirms their own diagnosis: psychopathy. 

 

* The implosion of the societal influence of the tech billionaires. Google broken up. FB and Twitter forced to carry anything which is also legal without discrimination upon pain of criminal prosecution and corporate dissolution.  Possibly FB broken up and Twitter turned into a public utility ala ATT. 

 

* New legal thinking about what constitutes a crime when the number of people impacted runs into the tens of millions, as is the case with the Tech Tyrants. The sheer quanity of people being effected by their malfaesance becomes its own quality, changing the seriousness of the crime and making some new things  criminal owing only to the sheer scope, magnitude  and impact of that which is now being  criminalized.

 

* The defunding not of the police but of the university system which is at this point is essentially a 50 year-old  financial scam against the middle class,  a grifter's paradise, and a factory for producing non-critcal thinkers and  people jacked up for the violent overthrow of the United States of America, all  footed by the US taxpayer. Its outright full throated assault on science and reason itself if left unchecked will destroy our society. Big L Liberal and tolerant societies are not required, by dint of being tolerant, to also nuture their own destruction .

 

* The break up of the CIA, which  has already been brought under command of  Homeland Security. The excuse?  Things are being reorganized and their functions are being redistributed . The real reason? They participated in an attempted coup d'etat against the President of the United States of America. 

 

It's the total destruction of all their power bases, reputation and legitimacy, all at once. 

 

So I mean it when I say they'll kill half this nation to stay in power. The mass voter fraud they're engineering is nothing to them.

 

Be prepared people. It's coming and it will be like nothing this nation has EVER seen. 

5 hours ago, Joshua1984 said:

Their movement has issues as well.  It wouldn't surprise me to see Biden do jail time over the Ukraine issues.  A black lives fundraiser stole over $200,000 as well.

 

A Ukraine billionaire got in trouble for all kinds of fraud.

Multiple hacking groups.

Multiple counterfeit / fraud groups.

Multiple money laundering groups.

People trying to get weapons from US (communists?)

And KGB links.

 

 

 

 

On 10/12/2020 at 12:17 AM, Redleg79 said:

That is exactly the type of group I'm looking to start up.  A group that will secure members and family members for the long haul. (Food, Water, medical, security, communications, extraction of family members if needed.)

 

I'm in Greenwood, maybe we can meet up and talk?

Hey I tried to message you not sure if you got it. Yes I would like to meet up and talk. I will track this thread for a response.

Well what happens to Big Debt like student loan debt if the Left Coast secedes?  California would maybe split in two: San Diego and then everything from  LA on up. New York would split into upstate and NYC.  

 

A civil war would be like a small number on both sides causing death and mayhem with a larger number of secret supporters giving them funds and shelter and logisitcal support. It would essentially be a long running terrorist attack.  The cities would go with the libs and effectively secede from the states. they are located in .  

 

The thing is, we can't let that happen because we'd be doing to ourselves what Europe did to itself when France and England  and all the rest warred each other into bankruptcy and exhaustion... and then the Turks and the Muslims attacked...... If you read about that time, it's just plain luck, or the Hand of God, that were are not all walking  around with prayer rugs and praying to Meccca five times a day. 

 

The United States cannot permit itself to be riven. Sorry to say but the crazier the libs get, the less they are able to hide the crazy the more people get clarity about who exactly is the problem here. When it reaches a tipping point, we'll have the consensus needed to justify  all  force necessary to  bring them to their senses. 

 

Of course, as a matter of fact, that time has already come but it's not enough for the time to come- people have to agree that the time has come. 

1 hour ago, CaptObvious said:

Oh yea, saw this earlier. Listening to Tim Pool now. He did note those videos were over the course of like a year or so.

 

Yeah Pool is good. I also get a lot out of these podcasts:

 

 American Conservative University:

The Dan Bongino Show

 

The Eric Metaxas Show <--- this guy was leaving a Trump speech at the White House a couple weeks ago and some shrieking asshole on a bike headed for him screaming something about Turmp and ...Eric decked him !! It was awesome ! Picutre everyone walking down a car-less street  in formal attire, the women in high heels and dresses and the men in tuxes... and  this antifa-wanna-be heads right into everyone on a  bike shrieking...and he heads at Metaxas and BAM! Metaxas takes him right off his bike withone punch. I didn't think he had it in him !  

 

American Thought Leaders

The Victor Davis Hanson Podcast

Secure Freedom Radio

Matt Walsh Show

Michael  Knowles Show

The Andrew Klavan Show

Tom Fitton's Weekly Updatte Podcast

 

The  John Batchelor Show  has a really  great long running discussion with a guest he has on every couple weeks where they discuss:  "are we in a civil war?" . It's been going on a while. There are probably 20 episodes  by now. When he does political stuff he is generaly quite insightful. I disagree with him arnound the edges  about trade and tarriffs and immigration typically. 

 

 

 

Gentlemen, it appears to me that this individual intends to kill everyone like us he can-

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/13/colorado-dem-op-violent-agenda-trump-win/

Well talk about lawsuit material how about the in-kind donations Twitter Google and Facebook  are giving to Biden? Now there's a lawsuit waiting to blow. 

33 minutes ago, Travlr_45 said:

Im curious, in the event of a civil war what would become of personal debt?  ie: mortgage payment, car payment, credit card debt etc etc etc?  

God don't give me people a reason to want one. 

 

Believe me, you do not want to live through a civil war. Debt is a non-problem compared to that. 

1 hour ago, CaptObvious said:

You all care if I put this in the Intel forum? The docs and dates and such?

@ MarcusAurelius
@ Schoony

No please do. 

I guess in an EOTW scenario where we are living in the woods i would try to use a rock.

NIce. Thanks for this tip.

I have a five word solution that I myself would never enact on these rioters but the police CAN and SHOULD be enabled to enact:

 

Open fire shoot to kill. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/12/read-left-wing-radicals-post-online-guide-to-disrupting-the-country-if-election-is-close/

 

Take it seriously.

On 6/12/2020 at 8:48 PM, Sandy King said:

Im concerened about the events taking place in our country and how they are affecting me and my familys life,we would like to learn more about your group and how we can become involved,to protect ourselves and others in our community.

Hi Sandy,

 

My wife and I have similar concerns.  We are located inside 465 (which is all blue)  but still away from the city by some miles. We are prepping and looking for preppers to circle the wagons with in case things become crazy and systems stop working, work out some fall-back strategies, share knowledge and resources. My motto is "better together" but around my neighborhood it's all Biden or people who can't follow through even though they say they're very worried. 

 

I would like to meet other people and exchange tips, strategies,  concerns, perspectives, tactics etc etc. 

 

Feel free to contact me if this sounds like something you'd be interested in.  

 

14 hours ago, Cherokee said:

If the Democrats stage a coup and any outside Nation commits to military support for them that is going to be the end of the United States. We will have no choice but to take up arms just to keep peace at the local level.

No. Not it's not. Nothing is going to end the United States of America. That's because no matter what happens, the wheel keeps turning and history is always different than the autocrats and totalitarians would have it be. Even China has to worry constantly about its own population- the children of the leaders of the CCP I am talking about now, turning on them and their system. In that case, the reality is, they're not that into their parent's ideology and very very many of them want to see democracy in China. And that's the elite. The HongKongers are in full rebellion. Basically,between Trump rallying the West and their own internal divisions  and defections, China has huge problems it can't Uyghur -camp its way out of. In fact, I would say China is in full panic mode. 

 

And that's a full-on totalitarian state complete with Death Camps for dissenters. 

 

So no, The United States of America will not only go on but thrive. This is near to Our  Darkest Hour- literal - not figurative- seditition on the part of America's elites in the  TLAs, media and  academia and maybe 1/5 of the general population  understanding  and signing on to a full on race-based Communist reinterpretation of scociety.  

 

And how is that working out for them?

 

Robin d'Angelo is on her 14th minute of fame. No one can stand BLM despite heavy corporate investment and 24/7  MSM lies.

 

No one in the independent intelligent but still, nominally, non-Trump America believes antifa is, as Joe Biden said, "just a concept".   Everyone outside of the 1/5 can't stand the lockdown and a huge segment of the population - the entrprenuers- have been bankrupted by what is understood to be a policy of the Left- the lockdown.

 

Medical journals are- knowingly and slyly-  publishing numbers in which can be found  the subversive truth about COVID-19- it was never the universal pandemic it was made out to be. 

 

Everywhere, not just on Breitbart, but everywhere outside of the MSM intelligent people are coming to the realization that the lockdown was an extreme over-reaction on the part of our weak leaders- at best- and a cynical and deadly political maneuver that killed far more elderly and  young people alike than the virus ever would have. 

 

Through every orifice of communication, the Left is bleeding credibility. Minds are being  changed and political realignment is happening across the country thanks to all of the above but especially thanks  to antifa who, via the ubiquitous phone-camera, broke  the back of the  media's credibility and showed ordinary Americans just exactly what the Left really is and what they look like. 

 

POTUS not only knows about, not only  spoke the words, but affirmatvely banned  "Critical Studies" from the government which means that knowledge of that cancer on our society is now fully mainstreamed- a shocking development to those of us who knew about it in the 90s and tried to fight its rise.

 

The internet is a rolling disaster for the Leftists because it has the capacity to transmit unmediated reality and unregulated debate. We may have put it together to survive a Communist attack from Russia in the 60s, but it works just as well on a Communist attack by the universities in the 21st century. 

 

People everywhere are getting a reality check on what homeschooling is - and is not- and it will lead a great swath of Americans to defect from public schooling- forever. Meanwhile universities are committing hari-kari by dropping standards, testing and real grades in order to produce  the required quotas for Black "achievement".  All that's going to do is remove their reputations as sure procurers of high-ability people and shift that function to private entities.

 

This is Their Finest Hour. This is as good as it gets for them. We're not a bellicose people. We're intrerested in our personal lives and families and tend to leave the rascals to their own devices as far as possible. But when something the nature and scope of what is happening arises, we respond as one with overwhelming force. I don't know anything about you and you don't know anything about me but I know and you know what Evil looks like  and I know and you know that  we'll do whatever needs to be done to defeat it.  

 

There is exactly zero chance they will dissolve the United States of America, irrespective of this election's outcome. If Biden loses- and he will- let the Left coast try to secede; it worked out so well for them last time.    It's all we need to write ourselves a blank check to do what must be done. If they want to provoke us, let them. No one needs San Francisco to exist. Ditto NYC. Ditto Chicago. If it's between the United States of America and any  or all  of those cities, then we all know which way history will go. 

 

If it's between continuing to let Communism and all its guises-  Critical Studies, cultural Marxism - be legal  and the United States of America, then we all know which way that will go. If we must, we can have the government tell universities what they can and cannot teach. Tough shit and no, it's not a question of academic freedom or any other "principle". The universities murdered academic freedom and private conscience in broad daylight. They have no moral standing to plead for "tolerance" and "diversity of viewpoint".

 

We have never done some of the things which need to- and will be- done , but all public  policies are a  kind of  ongoing experiment. If the results of an  experiement are in and those results aren't  good, then we can-  and will - change the policies that produced those results.

 

They don't get it. There's nothing we won't do and support to preserve, protect and defend  The United States Of America. The law WILL go where criminals force it to go. As a rule, don't prophylactically create laws for possible crimes . We are optimistic and tolerant and we create laws in reaction to crimes. If Comey and Hillary and Obama and Brennan and Yates and Rice and all the rest of them want to go somewhere novel and especially depraved in criminal activity, rest assured they're not defining some new land where  the Law fears to tread. 

 

These are historic times. That means things we've never seen done before will have to be done. Trump is the man to do them. In fact, I can't think of a President before the 19th Century who would have had the disposition to do what now, most evidentally, needs to be done. 

 

Our job in this is to protect our families and our communities and support Trump in doing the unprecedented things he's going to have to do, no matter who shrieks or how loudly. 

 

In the words of antifa- "it's going down"- their fucking throats. 

 

 

 

 

 

On 9/23/2020 at 4:27 PM, Marine1955 said:

Out here in the sticks we have only one place to go too.. and the Police station and sheriff aren't far away and there pro Trump all the way...

 

I myself will be packing and thank God that Kansas is a conceal carry option here..we don't need a license to carry..

 

Lucky dog !

 

9 hours ago, Jefferson Adams said:

Aurelius, 

 

Your idea, defies logic.

 

If this was a plot against President Trump and the economy, why is it affecting the whole world? 
 

If this is a plot against President Trump why is he hard pushing this rushed vaccine? 
 

If President Trump is against this deception why is he going along with masks, why is he giving Fauci a spotlight? 
 

Stop trusting a single man. Everyone needs to start thinking about whether President Trump has been compromised somehow and he is not some victim here. 

 

 

 

 

 

>>If this was a plot against President Trump and the economy, why is it affecting the whole world? 

 

At first I believed it  and now I don't. I  accept that this virus is novel and real I don't accept that is anywhere near as deadly to otherwise healthy  people under 70 as they are claiming it is. 

So my direct answer to your question"Why is it affecting the whole world?, "  is: it's not.  

I believe early on the issue became political and was always meant to be political. We can  discuss why I don't believe that it was worth shutting the economy down for based on infection rate, symptomatic infection rate and mortality rate but that's another thread. 

 

Only an infectious  plague with a very high mortality rate  could shut down the economy and legitimize  a cheat-by-mail scheme. So that's what it's being presented as. Doctors and researchers are trying to push back, but anyone who does runs the risk of being cancelled and ending their career.

 

I went through a stage believing our overreacction  was just a mistake in judgment. Now that I see it's enabling the undemocratic usurpation of our government, I have to take that into account. 

 

 

 

>>If this is a plot against President Trump why is he hard pushing this rushed vaccine? 

 

Because the virus  a real thing that really does kill people and real people are really scared of it. 

 

If he says what he probably thinks, which is what I think, it's the sudden death  of his political career. Most people wouldn't agree with him and the press would go berserk and he'd be portrayed  as advancing conspiracy theories at the expense of the American People's health. 

I freely admit it's a conspiracy theory, meaning, I have no direct evidence for it, but there is a ton of historical and contemporary evidence that the CIA want's this guy out at any cost, as anyone paying attention is well aware of.  

 

So what is he going to do? Only what he can do, politically.  Push hard   for a real vaccine to the real virus (which it is)  because the better part of being a leader is leading the people where they are willing to go.  He can't surface any dobts he has about the seriousness of it all, not even one. Not even a little bit. 

 

 

 

>>If President Trump is against this deception why is he going along with masks, why is he giving Fauci a spotlight? 

 

see above. 

 

 

 

>>Stop trusting a single man.

 

I am not doing that.  I am choosing a man amongst the choices I do in fact have.

 

That said, I am amazed at President's Trump's sheer animal instincts for detecting when he's made errors  (McMaster etc.) and his ability to divine the overall shape of complex poltical movements against him. Movements brought  against him by people with unlimited budgets, unlimited technoogy, unlimited co-conspirators, and vast collective experience in overturning nations. 

Then there's his sheer animal vitality and will and drive to fight for the American People and our Republic. The People love him for a reason- he's a 70+ year old guy fighting against an incredibly corrupt and powerful deep state and not giving them any quarter. Most guys in the 30s would have quit long ago.  

In word, this man is a proven stud. He's a stud and role model for all of us about how to conduct ourselves and persevere  in the face of incredible odds throughout our life and believe me when I say for this reason I am taking him as a role model. 

 
God Bless Donald John Trump.

 

 

 

>>Everyone needs to start thinking about whether President Trump has been compromised somehow and he is not some victim here. 

 

He HAS been compromised- being compromised is the natural state of  any  leader. You're compromised by the forces around you which oppose you. You're compromised by limitations on your power. You're compromised in that you see further and deeper than even the people in your camp. Your compromised on resources. Your compromised in your ability to communicate. Oh, he's compromised all right, but the question is, how does he handle the fact of being compromised? That's how we judge leaders. 

 

This guy has delivered more real well being and opportunity to the American People- and I can  get down into the weeds and specifics here- more than every President since Eisenhower, combined. He's a truly historic, if unlikely figure, and the only question left is- who will write history- them or us?  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/breaking-north-carolina-joins-michigan-pennsylvania-will-accept-late-ballots-9-days-election-ballot-harvesting/

 

These judges rewiring our election system ad-hoc and at the last minute- do they not realize or care that this is going to result in half this nation rejecting the results of the election as fraudulent?  These arre the most arbitrary and poisonous decisions I have ever seen come out of any court.

 

According to Faucci (..I sneer..) there is no reason not to vote in person. So the only issue here is a desire to open a loophole for election fraud. Do they think we're going to be OK with that somehow? Or we're going to accept it? 

 

I mean, sorry your candidate lost last election but the concentration camps and mass murder the Democrats have been saying Trump is going to bring have never materialized so do you think you'll survive four more years or do you insted think you'd better  plunge this nation into civil war?

 

Naw... better to plunge the nation into civil war than risk another four years of a Trump Presidency. Yeah, that's what's best for America ! How stupid are they? 

 

Not be a conspiracy theorist online (lol) but you have to wonder what they're thinking. They are obviously invalidating the legitimacy of the election results- now no-one is going to believe the election wasn't stolen.

 

That is so obvious an outcome of decisions  like this it's almost impossible to believe they aren't fully aware that that  is what they're doing. And if they are aware, then it can only mean that that's what  they  want for some reason.  And if that's what they want then that  can only mean one of two things:

 

1) they are deliberately trying to provoke civil war because they believe the outcome of that civil war will be their side winning and they will have vanquished their hated enemy once and for all

 

2) they are deliberately and openly carrying out a fradulent election because they believe we won't *really* be able to do anything about it and consequently we'll be permanently demoralized and become apathetic non-participants in future elections, electioneering and civil life in general, choosing instead to withdraw from larger society and thus neutering ourselves.

 

2 above is more like a psy-op of the sort (some types of)  people in the intelligence community (IC) cook up when they want to overthrow a nation but don't want blood on their hands. 

 

We have to plead with anyone we know inside any department, branch or agency of  the government to come forward with information about what they're doing and why. We need to plead with people positioned to record and prove what is happening  to take risk for their nation and find and copy documents or capture   recordings of what is being planned and who is doing the planning.

 

Either we all stand together and risk everything for the rule of law or we play it safe hoping our personal island of security will not be consumed by the rising ocean of what is, in reality, re-branded Socialism/Communism. 

 

These judges are literally pushing this nation into dissolution. On top of everything else, they have to believe that the process of this nation coming undone will somehow miraculously  not effect them personally. Good luck with that. 

 

We also have to entertain the idea they're being blackmailed. For decades  the IC was recording all our activity without anyone knowing.  A reasonable person can suppose they recognized blackmail material when it came across their sights and kept it, the courts and  Constitution be damned- certainly we know with 100% certainity that  Clapper and Comey and Brennan are all of this ilk.  So these decisions may be more than merely partisan; they may be coerced. 

 

Remember, this is an FBI that did NOT identify Antifa or break them up or infiltrate them or disrupt them in any way and now that they're literally burning down cities and engaging in mass intimidation tactics,  and  still has done exactly nothing in the way of breaking them up. This puts us in the unfortunate position of having to  entertain the idea that everything we're seeing from the plandemic to the burning cities to these decisions are all a part of the type of planetary-sized schemeing , manipulation and interference in civil society we know for an absolute  fact that the IC thinks it has some right to inflict on the people of this nation.

 

Look, if it starts with a virus  leaked from a  biolab in China (wikipedia editors getting the respect on this topic  they have earned here - none ! ) which is then whipped up into a fake epidemic,  which is then used to force the public submission of all business, religious and cultural forces in America- a total rewrite of daily life-  which is then parlayed into an excuse to rewrite election laws in such a way so as  to open an the  door to obvious  fraud, at some point in that chain you have to start to believe that this last event- vote by mail configured to enjoin massive corruption- was the intended end point all along. 

 

Then ask yourself- who has the power to do that? A coordinating scientifis / media / political / intelligence  cabal. It's not that each and every person is read into the plan; That's not how something like this would work.  It's enough that as it unfolds, each judge, scientist, politician  sense what their  role  in it is and they play that  role and make those decisions  because they're in sympathy with  its ends. 

 

This is  why this nation it at the highest risk for coming apart that's it's ever been at. Because one half of this nation *wants* it to come apart if it means defeating their hated enemy. That's  a price worth paying in their view. It's exactly what Don Lemon said yesterday- "we gotta to burn this whole system down". 

 

Whatever else happens in the near or far future, we can't quit. If we or our children are the ones in the IC, in govt. on judge's bench's in office, if it's us and our values, then we can turn anything they do back. But if it's not us, if it's them teaching our children, lecturing at our universities, handing down decisions and manning the IC (intelligence ocmmunities) then we're doomed. 

 

The goodness of a society is contingent on the values of the individuals in our  institutions. That has to be us and our children.  There is no subsitute for that in this society or even any society we could  create in the future. Startring over would only, after long effort, bring us right back to the point we are at now.  We can't run away; we have to face it. We have to redouble our efforts and get fully involved no matter what happens. 

 

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Constitutional Patriot said:

You are exactly right. That is why civiliandefenseforce.org does not have a central command. We are an alliance to defend our city's and town's. I believe a41 also runs on that concept. Americancontigency.com is more for the unaffiliated. Rev.E. has organized units in Tennessee. All of us have different approaches to allying with each other for mutual aid if need be.

 

Thank you for this information ! I am trying to find people who just want to be eyes and ears of what's going on so that if anything really riotous (lol) happens, I can get advanced notice and secure my family. Hopefully,, at least in my area, election night will be like every other election night but listening to the Democrats I absolutely hear them telling their people to get out into the streets and protest (which as we have learned is dogwhistle for protest in the daytime, riot at night). 

 

I am talking to neighbors but I live in a  blue area (and people are very nice here for the most part )  and whew! the MSM has them believing things about Trump you just wouldn't believe. 

 

I'll say this. I and everyone around me have the same values and hold the same opinions on the radical Left's plans for this nation- stacking SCOTUS, dissolving the electoral college, open borders, supporting the police, defending The Constitution  etc. etc but they are so stuffed to the gills with lies the MSM have told them and so totally ignorant of what is going on (Seattle?  Portland? Spygate? What's that?? Trump colluded with Russia.... still !!!!!) that they are literally being guided to vote for the destruction of the things I know for a fact  they care about.

 

If anyone knows of good techniques to breaking through without alienating them in the process, do share that too.  One thing I've struck on is not to contradict anything they open with because those are their most closely held and angry beliefs and that's not where to start but instead deflect a little so that if they say Trump ! Russia ! You come back with "well what Russia and China and North Korea really are trying to do is get us to hate each other..". They tend to accept  that and also be less inclined to show hatred towards you because, you know, they don't want to  be manipulated by Russia! 

 

We're all here because we're worried about events spiraling out of control and that's my chief concern and purpose here. However, we  also have to strike at the root of what is happening in our country.  That means having some (judicious !!!) courage and being willing  to open conversations with our fellow Americans on the other side of this horrid divide. The most important things I'm learning are

 

1) choose wisely- some peole are insane and there's nothing you can do for them but avoid them

 

2) be an ambassador - don't be unlikeable or directly contrary no matter what they say- these are there actual beliefs and if YOU believed these thing because you were drowning in MSM, you'd have the same opinions on Trump!

 

3) find areas of agreement- ones that work around here are : the Constitution, the police, the electoral college , foreign interference in our elections.

 

Above all, be someone they can like, even if it means hiding or even obscuring your real beliefs. Just opening their awareness to events they know nothing about- Portland and Antif and the fact that BLM is a Marxist organization that is calling for revolution - is huge.

 

The best way I have found to do that is with the video montages of Antifa and BLM rioting, threatening, gloating over murders, blocking the hospitals of the cops, the founders saying their Marxists, ...some select Paul  Joesph Waston videos are good....

 

Also, Tucker Carlson very often presents things in a well reasoned, even tempered and  evidenced way. Every time he does that, he's bridge-building to anyone of the other side who can still be convinced by evidence and reason.

 

I *tried* to get my Socialist (!) blue-dog Democrat union-member neighbor to  watch Tucker Carlson just  once .....and he wouldn't do i... even once !  That level of self-blinding goes by the fancy name of "epistemic closure" and let me tell you, fancy name or not, Buster, it's real. These people  don't let contrarian views through any gate they're watching. Well, to be more accurate,  I didn't have the relationship with him necessary to get him to watch once. But wow! You don't see yourself being that thing you say you hate- closed minded???!!! 

 

I really believe that this is an important component in winning the culture war which is  why I  sort of went off at a little length here about it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK so worst case scenario is looking pretty likely. Trump landslide, cheat by mail tidal wave, riots and civil disorder... you know an attempted coup d'etat. 

 

OK, so, given that as a working assumption I am trying to work out the how, why and what of offline (no internet no phone) communication. 

 

The what I imagine will be things like - there's 50 rioters coming down my street, houses are burning, cars are smashed etc etc.  The police have this and that blocked off... numbers of people their activities and their locations generally. This is shared with people in the very local area- 5 miles 8 miles maybe 20 miles.. a distance a mob could travel. 

 

The why is so you can choose to try to flee or defend yourself. Flee to a friend / compatriot's house or call in reniforcements to defend your house and street.

 

The how I just know about humdrum walkie-talkies. I am going to assume they will try to jam transmissions. I base that last idea on the fact that this is being driven by Big Money and has access to very sophisitcated capabilities which they haven't unveiled yet but will in the final push to topple our government. 

 

I don't know if any of the above is correct, partially correct, naive, mistaken or what. I know people here have more experience and have spent more time thinking this through so I am looking for more knowledgable people to guide me here. 

 

Also, the why could extend to- who has water? Food? Bandages, Knows a doctor? Etc. etc. 

 

I am actively looking to set this up in my area.