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  1. This shows yet another reason that Conspiracy Theory weakens the movement. It yields the wrong analysis, the idea that there is an all-powerful Conspiracy -- a small group of men, plus Hillary, plus Satan, who 'control everything'. That is wrong. It's Sun-goes-Around-the-Earth thinking ... an easy assumption because it looks that way. But it's not that way. There are deep contradictions and splits and conflicts among the other side. And also wrong is the automatic assumption that most policemen see us and ISIS as the same. It IS true that there is prejudice against the militia movement even among naturally conservative people, as the police are. The prominence in the past of various loons, like Bo Gritz or Norman Olson, helped cement that view in. We can un-cement it, by consciously reaching out to the police and by not getting into any shoot outs.
  2. 1. Please please please .... count to ten -- in Chinese, go get a dictionary -- before you say anything that could get another brother (or sister) here angry. We are all on the same team. 2. We are in a new world here. It's not fire-and-maneuver, it's not make-out-your-range-card ... it's not ordinary politics either. It's very possibly pre-civil war politics , but if so that's a ways off. 3. It's not 1960s Burn-baby-burn riots either, which I lived through. Those were spontaneous, with little political content. The Black Panthers and Weatherman came after them. 4. What we have here is both spontaneous riots, driven both by anger over George Lloyd's death AND by "Whoa, time to get me a flat-screen TV" thinking, AND seriouis political intervention by BLM, AntiFa, and no doubt others. [Because we are such F******G AMATEURS we have no real intelligence on what's going on, no one even systematically covering the enemy's websites, no one signed up to his email lists as a sympathyzer, and, of course, no one inside these groups who's been there 8 years and has got into a position of confidence. If you would like to join a group that is going to change this situation, PM me, but no fantasists or would-be James Bond romantics need apply. No Secret Decoder Rings will be available.] 5. One of the things we have to learn is that, to invert von Clausewitz, "Poltics is War carried on with different means." A "military victory" somewhere against Anti-Fa would be ridiculously easy to arrange -- as Moshe Dayan's daughter said of Gulf War I, it wouldn't be a fight, it would be a hunt. It would also destroy us. 6. However, exactly what each unit should do in each situation is a tricky tactical problem. Yes, we don't want to shoot anyone. But should we show up at all? When we do, should we be armed? Or even in camo? Or even present, officially, as a militia? I can see situations where 'Yes' is the answer to all those questions, and others where a mixture of 'Yes' and 'No' is, and others where it's all "No's". 7. We are just learning this new mode of warfare. There will be mistakes made --already have been, see Albuquerque. We will learn from them. Hopefully. Therefore, one real military habit that every militia unti should adopt is the After-Action-Report. And it should be (perhaps privately) circulated around the movement so we all learn. Col . Cepeda might be good enough to elaborate what goes into an After Action Report and why they are so important for professionals. 8. We will have, inside and outside, people with evil intent, goading us to show our manhood by getting into a situation where we might have to shoot someone. Beware of the voice of the enemy. 9. We need training in how to fight without firearms. Not one-on-one Bruce Lee stuff, but the sort of thing police learn re. violent or belligerent demonstrations. We have several hundred LEO on this site ... let's get them to help. How does a group of 100 disciplined people defend a meeting from a howling mob? 10. In real combat, as the result of an engagement with a serious enemy, your forces shrink -- through KIA and WIA. In most of the combats to come, our forces should grow. Every militia unit that takes part in a Fourth of July defense operation should come away with more members than it started with. If not, it's doing something wrong. Use our leaflet to help do this. We support our Local Police.doc Leaflet for July 4th.doc
  3. This is the kind of stuff, translated into the environment that the miliitia finds itself in, that we need to know. I'm starting a thread on Fourth of July Militia vs AntiFa considerations, based on a Private Message exchange with someone who is going with his militia group to Mt Rushmore. You will recognize that this is a civilian talking when I lay out what I think they should be thinking about ... and I would appreciate your comments.
  4. There is a concept in Operations Research and similar areas, called "mini-maxing". It means trying to take the path of decision-consequence -decision etc that will result in the lowest loss when your opponent does everything right. You minimize your maximum loss. I think that applies here -- with the qualifications that you and @MiguelCepeda pointed out were needed to make it more realistic -- that's what I would go with too. Always get the bad news first. Don't shun the bad news. I think history, and especially military history, is full of examples of commanders who didn't want to hear the bad news. Stalin had a magnificent espionage system, and had ample warning that the Nazis were going to break their pact with him and invade the USSR -- he ignored them all, helped by a slavish intelligence chief -- because he didn't want to believe it. As a result he lost millions of men and most of his airplanes West of the Urals. General MacArthur's Chief of Intelligence, Colonel Willoughby, told MacArthur what he wanted to hear -- which was that the Chinese would not intervene if we drove the North Korean Army right tup to and over their border. So we did a repeat of our original flight down the peninsula when they did intervene. Our radar picked up the Japanese airplanes approaching Pearl Harbor three quarters of an hour before they arrived over the target ... but the Officer of the Day dismissed them as incoming American planes which had, inexplicably, gotten way off course and were coming in from the opposite direction they were expected to arrive from (and, evidently, very early too). I suppose he feared dragging everyone out of bed, after a hard Saturday night, would be, if it was a false alarm, a great embarrassment to him. And maybe he had a commander who punished honest mistakes. Too bad. Most people don't want to hear the bad news. Professionals know that this is the news you must hear first. The militia movement today is blithely unaware of the fact that it is on very thin legal ice, with respect to being a "private army", which the Supreme Court has ruled can be made illegal by a state if it wishes to. . People who urge that we "arrest the governor and try him for treason" have never heard of the Smith Act. Two men in Georgia are going to go to prison for a long time, because they thought they could carry out a "citizen's arrest" of someone for just casing the joint. All the polls show the senile Joe Biden with a comfortable lead over Mr Trump, including in swing states Trump won last time. And this is despite the fact that BLM/AntiFa and other Democratic supporters are trying to, literally, destroy the country. "There is plenty of time for events to swing things the other way" and "Polls are poor indicators of results, as witness last time" are valid responses to this bad news. "Polls are all faked" is not. I hope we win in November. (If we don't, I won't blame it on voter fraud.) And if we don't win, we have to carry on the struggle, under new and possibly unfavorable conditions, and wait for better times. The retreat is the most difficult of all military maneuvers to accomplish. It will be even harder, if we have to make a retreat, if we have not thought about how to do it: how, for instance, to behave if they not only outlaw buying new semi-automatic rifles, but institute a compulsory buy-back campaign. What to do if your state declares the militia a private army, and outlaws private armies. We don't have to roll over and die in these circumstances. There are ways to carry on, and wait until the tide of public opinion turns.
  5. I'm not proposing a one-on-one chat or argument at a demonstration... there are lots of good reasons not to do that. I'm proposing an Open Letter -- a picnic at which our people meet your people and we talk about our political differences. It's judo. They say we're Nazis. Nazis don't do this sort of thing. When our member Duncan Lemp was murdered by a police SWAT team in Maryland two months ago, I immediately sent a letter to the leaderships of the Socialist Rifle Association and the Redneck Revolt group, who are pro 2A, and pay lipservice to the idea of 'workers solidarity' -- I informed them of the facts and solicited their support -- without any political agreement between us and them -- for the right to bear arms without being murdered in your sleep. When had not heard back from either group, i tried the 'United Front From Below' tactic, and sent the same invitation directly to every local chapter of both groups. Again, no response. So maybe I wasted a couple of hours. But ... maybe I raised some doubts in the minds of their rank and file somewhere, who believe the militia movement are just neoNazis in camo.
  6. I basically agree with you. The old liberal/left who believed in free speech, has largely been absorbed by The Thing. Some of them remain, but they are all old people. The kids are getting their kicks shouting people down and breaking windows. And note: send them this public letter -- even send it to the local papers as a Press Release -- and then if they reject talking to us ... we have won a propaganda victory in the eyes of Mr and Mrs Middle America. And we may have raised some doubts about our evil-Nazi-ness among some of their members. But you're right ... most of them will not bite. And yet ... and yet .. the Left is NOT homogeneous. There are people within who oppose arbitrary violence of the Black Bloc start -- and they're not squishy pacifists, but real Marxists. The problem is ... very few people on the Right know anything at all about the hard Left. They've maybe encountered liberal lefties, squishies, to whom they've talked at length Or seen images of screaming radical kids ... or been at demonstrations and got to see (and smell) some of these people. But they little about them, especially about the more political among them, who tend to be the leaders. They substitute their lack of knowledge about the enemy with invective and factless deduction: "They are being manipulated by George Soros". And there are plenty of website around run by people who know that there is a dollar to be made by stoking conservative prejudices on these issues. The real truth about the hard Left, including Anti-Fa is that there are contradictions there. There is a tendency in Anti-Fa -- how strong, I don't know -- who want to 'reach the workers' (ie people like the militia movement). And in the non-AntiFa Left as a whole, it's even a much stronger tendency. The recent ancestors of AntiFa were the 'Black bloc'. Here is a serious Marxist analyzing the Black Bloc, and discussing a debate among Leftists about them: https://louisproyect.org/2012/09/14/chris-hedges-and-b-traven-debate-the-black-bloc/ I'm posting the original article, but not the comments that followed, because that would make it too long -- but if you are interested in seeing the Left debating among itself, click on the link above and read the comments as well. By the way, the basic debate described here among the Left -- "Immediate violent action now!!!" vs "A political struggle to win the majority of people to our side, after which, violence may be necessary to defend ourselves" -- is also one which takes place among us. We support our Local Police.doc Leaflet for July 4th.doc
  7. A very thoughtful answer. Yes ... the bad news could be, "Christmas leave will be two days shorter than normal", and the good news could be, "You're being sent a full division of re-inforcements who will arrive by tomorrow night, so you don't have to abandon your positions and pull back." So I should have said, they are both of roughly equal import.
  8. Whoa ... hadn't thought of that. Say they both have the same date of origin, same priority level. No other information about them is known.
  9. Rather than preparing 90 years ago? In any case, it would be very useful to be able to link up either to a living group, or to individuals who were involved in this. If anyone wants to get involved, please contact me, but .... note that an organization with a somewhat similar mission, the Western Goals Foundation [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Goals_Foundation] succumbed to the result of, evidently, bad judgement by getting mixed up in Iran/Contra. And its leader succumbed to a Soviet air-to-air missile which shot down the airliner he was flying in.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald] ... good thing I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but ... you have been warned. By the way, just in case Jesus doesn't destroy the world in November, we should be preparing to fight on the defensive for a while if we lose that election.
  10. Hypothetical situation: You are a military commander in a future war. You are alerted to two important messages pending transmission via the quantum-termporal store-and-forward 4D node matrix. For technical reasons, one message can be transmitted immediately. The second one will take up to two days to make its way to you. All you know is that one message contains good news, the other, bad. You can choose which message to get right away. The other will be delayed by up to two days. Which do you choose, and why?
  11. If we had a President as intelligent and amoral as Richard Nixon, these riots would be a huge opportunity to deal a serious blow to the Democrats. I don't see that happening now. All the opinon polls put Biden ahead. We know they are not infallible and sixteen weeks is a long time in politics, so we have to keep working on registering voters and explaining that the alternative to Trump is not JFK or even Bill Clinton, but a party that cannot stand up to AntiFa and BLM. But we must prepare for defeat in November as well and be ready for a legal assault on the militia movement.
  12. Why don't patriots who are within an hour's drive of Gettysburg just move their July 4th Celebrations to Gettysburg this year? So that there is an overwhelming crowd there -- so whether or not AntiFa show up -- which I doubt will happen -- there will be a large crowd, which will build morale. It would also allow militia people from a 7500 square mile area to come together and meet each other. I hope our leaflet gets distributed there, whatever happens.
  13. There are certainly patterns in human history, because humans today are biologically the same as humans thousands of years ago. So to the extent that our biology -- for example, the tendency to impulsive behavior, the desire to replicate our genes --- has not changed, we are like our distant ancestors. That's why you can read the Bible, a book consisting of writing from 2 to 3000 years old, and still find profound wisdom there. But ... because humans, like all animals, don't want to expend energy unecessarily, they figure our better and easier ways to earn their daily bread. Thus the 'forces of production' and 'technique' get better and better. This in turn changes society. A society based on peasant agriculture -- people who are illiterate, isolated, in the grip of superstition -- is going to be different in many ways from one based on modern industry -- with urban, literate populations, educated in at least rudimentary science and with some knowledge of their own history. We are lucky to be living when we do. The human race is approaching a historical cusp. If we can just avoid a big war in this century, our descendants two or three generations down the line may actually witness the transition from the Kingdom of Necessity to the Kingdom of Freedom.
  14. It would be truly wonderful if AntiFa were insane enough to actually attack ordinary Fourth of July rallies and celebrations. But I don't believe it for one second. I suppose that it's just barely possible that some group of far-sighted patriots, with a few million dollars at their disposal, foresaw the future 20 years ago, and organized some serious deep penetration of the Left -- by recruiting a couple of hundred patriotic college students without a visible conservative past, training them in how to pretend to be a radical, and sending them as 'sleepers' into Black Bloc and embryonic AntiFa groups. And now they're being activated, and after some trial runs, are goading their victims into a mass kamikaze attack on the July Fourth celebrations. But our side isn't that far-sighted. So I put this down to the usual suspects: the ones who periodically tell us that we're all going to be rounded up on Saturday and sent to FEMA camps, because they have decoded the chemtrails in the sky left by Black Helicopters which are guided by 5G towers etc weary etc. What I hope is that some of our guys distribute those leaflets we sent them, and get a good response. We ought to watch for a peak in registrations in the week following 4 July.
  15. Yes, I agree. We will not win a single member of AntiFA over to the patriotic side, at least not now. We may create some doubts, some cognitive dissonance, in their ranks. We may win some public sympathy. We will not win a majority. Trump will be the last Republican President. The Left will take control of America, and move steadily left. All this is true. But there will be a reaction .. America will not freeze into a Leftist state. In that reaction is our hope. And we want as many people strongly on our side as possible; for those who are not strongly for us, we want as many as possible weakly for us; for those who cannot be for us even weakly, we want neutrality;' for those who cannot be neutral, we want their opposition to us to be weak and full of doubts. This means waging a continual psychological war aimed at splitting the enemy's forces, weaking his resolve, introducing cognitive dissonance in his ranks ; pulling his weak supporters to the middle and the people in the middle towards us, and our weak supporters into the more militant group of our supporters, etc.

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