Matthew M

I am finished with this nonsense! These games, the lies and corruption. I am finished!

I, as an American will no longer tolerate it. I will not have my country stolen, sold out, or manipulated into servitude. NO!

Enough is enough.  We have been patient, we have prayed, we have trusted the system only to be silenced by big tech, mass media and others  owned by the corporations. I AM FINISHED!

You know what else I am finished with? A massive amount of people who claim they care and do nothing! The Virginia 2nd ammendment rally was eye opening to me. Of all the people talking this and that, maybe three of us went. I drove from Kansas! Real talk here most of you are fake, weak and scared. That's fine, I understand, everyone can contribute in their own way, but if your not a lion don't fkn roar and pretend you are. I am aware there are people watching this site. I AM AWARE. I will no longer hide. It is time to come out of the shadows. WE are the majority! They have simply convinced us we aren't.  Fear! fear! fear! Is that what you want to leave for your children? This "Culture" has been engineered. WE ARE THE PEOPLE!

NO MORE! NOT A FUCKING INCH.

Let's do some simple math here.

US population 331,636,000.

How many are true patriots?

Let's say 2% that's 6,632,720 men at arms. Where the Fuck are you? I AM Tired of the shadow bull shit. I AM either recruiting or recutable.

For those in the Government agencies monitoring this site, you have to ask yourselves the same questions. What future are you leaving for your children?  What is worth living for and what is worth dying for? I know the answer. Do you?

 Good rally. Everyone was chill, even the Antifa soy boys. At least we can agree on something. 

  Win for us people! I heard the estimate was 110,000. If this doesn't make a statement then I don't know what will. 

 The prominent militia the was the Silent Brigade.  Cool dudes, to bad they don't have a Kansas branch.

 Waste of resources.  I am going to the square tonight to do the same thing. I am going to evaluate the safest place to be outside the square.  I am going tomorrow to be supportive and exercise my rights, not be sitting in some false flag killbox.

Am I the only one actually going to this?

  A rook? They do realise that this is a peaceful protest and that we are not hooligans flinging rocks, right? If this is truly onsite, I find it very disconcerting and a bit insulting. The implication is there will be a riot or serious conflict. I also find it foolish on their part, as the rook is only functional for a direct assult on the unsuspecting and untrained. If it were me, I would not deploy the rook unless I were defending the main building and had high ground, which the main building does. But that would put it directly behind the speakers. What a site that would be. They seem to be bringing all the heat and smoke, waiting to blame the fire.

 I really hope they don't fuck this up and create a bunch of extremists.

27 minutes ago, RevRifleman said:

While there has been a great deal of discussion here and elsewhere on the net about this upcoming event on the 20th... has anyone put anything up regarding engagement with the media presence that is likely to be in full swarm? 

 

Not that we want to be like Antifa where we just shout obnoxious things at reporters or interfere with their work.  Thought I'd toss a quick reminder to folks attending:  Anything you say can and will be used against you by the media.  Have your stats and points planned in advance just in case you feel like taking the risk of engaging with the media.  

Rifleman,

 Good job looking out for the young, whose tongue lacks experience and discipline. I assume this is why the the server was down. 

 Although I have zero plans to engage the media, I am currently working on the printout of every VA bill, highlighting the issues and offering supporting facts surrounding the subject.

 You should contact me directly so we can chat before the rally.

  On a personal note. This mobile site is extremely infuriating. I am constantly blasted back to the top of the post. Which translates into about 35+ times I have to scroll down for each minuscule posting. If you cannot fix this give me admin privileges and I will fix it myself.

I am sorry that was frustration talking. Typing this took me 15 minutes.

Just now, RevRifleman said:

My opinion is as follows:

 

If you plan to be on the capitol grounds or in the capitol building... you should probably be in plain clothes.  That space should be reserved for the people of VA who want to voice their opinion according to the customs of that state/city. 

 

 Anything outside of that perimeter, by all means go full kit if you want.  Militia's should plan to be outside of that perimeter as far as I'm concerned.  

 

Besides, a Judge just upheld the gun ban on capitol grounds in VA.

   I plan to be outside. A willingness to be disarmed is vastly symbolic and will be exploited by the Media. I will NOT be disarmed and thus will be outside the gates most likely with a compounding group of others. The steps taken to limit our rights was about as counterproductive as one could be, possibly by design.

 I will, on the other hand, make my displeasure known. As I mentioned before, I have contacted Mr. Van Cleave and Sheriff Jenkins to offer a viable solution.

35 minutes ago, RevRifleman said:

A lot of different voices on this over the past few weeks.  Some saying to go no kit others saying go full kit... and both sides changing mind along the way.  Pistol, rifle, nothing at all or all of the above.  Lot of waffling. 

 

Consensus appears to be moving to full kit from what I can see.  Will see if attitudes change by Sunday night.  

 

 

 

 

  I'll be wearing regular clothes w/ a covered low profile civi plate carrier,  tac belt with a very stocked IFAK, drop holster, Sig, extra mags and a chest mounted GOPRO. That's it.  Showing up in BDUs is not a good idea. A full rig will make you a target unless you have a full team to match.

  My advice; Wear low profile protection. Go lite with a heavy stocked IFAK in case people are injured. Bring whatever recording device you can. Anything! Even an old cell phone. The truth must be protected and it's critical to have evidence to prove your innocence should you should be falsely accused of anything.

 I contacted Mr. Van Cleave and suggested that the speakers podium be moved outside the "fenced in" area. 

 It seems crazy to me that people are willing to accept this. It is a second ammendment rally, and we are willing to be disarmed. Lunacy! How do you think the rest of the country will view this? How do you think it will be portrayed in the news.

 How would we defend ourselves in the event of a false flag. The pathetic political puppets pass this law knowing we the people are coming to protest. Also note that they "are" allowed carry, but not us. This hypocrisy must not stand. We must stand our ground.  The only power they have is what we allow.

 We must stand together and REFUSE to be disarmed! I am going. I am going armed. I will not be disarmed! I will stand, even if I stand alone!

4 hours ago, Doug1943 said:

Let's frame it as a military problem, set in the days when the poor bloody infantry moved around by foot, as in the War Between the States.

 

Assume you are a general -- choose which side -- and your scouts bring you reports of the enemy massing towards one particular point. As you try to decide what to do, you have to take into account several factors:

 

(1) The Enemy Order of Battle [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle], and your own. What does your enemy have, in terms of numbers, of the principal combat arms , how are they organized, what are their strengths and their weaknesses .... and the same for yourself. Until Grant took over, the Union generals frequently wildly over-estimated the numbers of the their Southern opponents.

 

(2) The geographic position of the elements of both sides.  Then as now, fighting units were dispersed. They had to be brought together in order to have a major engagement.  How far away is each of your armies? How far away  are the enemy's? What kind of terrain will they have to cross in order to reach the battlefield? How long will it take?  (Napoleon was on the verge of winning Waterloo, when, as the sun was going down, the Prussians under the admirable Field Marshall von  Blücher came up on his right flank, having fought their way through his blocking elements and carried the day for the Allies. Napoleon had underestimated the ability of the Prussians to get to the battlefield in time.)

 

We have to make the same judgement today, except that the first calculation has to be of total numbers, not of total armed numbers. Put it this way ... at this point in time, any serious attempt at armed resistance to the government will result in a crushing defeat for our side, not only militarily, but, far more importantly, politically. It would drive people towards the government side.

 

And what would our aim be? To replace a democratically-elected government with a minority-supported one, which holds power because it has the preponderance of armed force?  Really?  But it would not happen: the military will stay loyal, and the militia would melt like snow in hot summer in the face of the American military. 

 

Right now, the militia does not have mass support among the American people. Its forces have not arrived on the battlefield yet. Our fight is necessarily defensive -- since they will try to crush us in the egg -- and our main aim must be to grow: not just in active members, but in the numbers of people who think well of us.

 

The Union forces won the Battle of Gettysburg by getting to the high ground first, and then just holding it.  That's our position at the moment.  The laws seizing weapons will be fought in the courts, right up the Supreme Court, where we hold the advantage. They can be resisted in the same way unjust laws were resisted in the South -- by non-compliance, by civil disobedience, by ceaseless agitating and campaigning. 

 

Armed violence by our side at the present moment is EXACTLY what the other side is hoping for, and probably what they are trying, in various ways, to provoke.

 

 

I agree with a vast majority of what is said here, with one slight deviation. We are assuming that any opposition would be organized as an army, culminating at one or more main locations. The fact of the matter is; "the people" should and would be organized in a fashion more reminiscent of our four fathers. Meaning; small groups working in accordance with one another, striking hard then fading away. In reality "the people" would function more like insurgents of the middle east.

 Well said Doug, the info on the long guns is appreciated. I may or may not comply with that request. I am less concerned about our people and more concerned about a false flag plant. If there is someone that you suspect,  keep eyes on that person and intercede if necessary.

 Although, I understand the request, not to bring a "long gun", I do consider that a failure in judgment. It would behoove the organizers to allocate a few if not many to just that. Not only as a means of deterrent and protection for the group, but also as a visual aid for those seeking to infringe on our rights.

 I know this goes without saying; but like Doug said. Trigger control people, Safety, Safety, Safety! One negligent discharge is all that is necessary for left to say; "See these guns are dangerous... bla bla bla." Unless you are put into a position to defend yourself, keep your firearm holstered! We all like a little show and tell, but now is not the time.

Redefining "Assault Weapon". Senate bill No. 16