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Better GOA or NRA

Discussion in 'Website Information, Suggestions and Feedback' started by Scott Lance Smith, Oct 22, 2017.

  1. Scott Lance Smith

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    Which Group is better the GOA or NRA & Why?
     
  2. Chris-the-plumber

    Chris-the-plumber Grumpy, but effective.

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    The GOA does not have the pull that the NRA does yet. What they have tried to do is to inform American voters and encourage them to act.
    I support the NRA, though I don't fully agree with their approach all the time. I also support Gun Owners of America, and strongly recommend we all do. Our current situation can be traced back to inaction, relying on the NRA to do all the work is sure to be disastrous. In summary, support them both.
     
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  3. Mr Thrall

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    I believe that I understand where you are coming from. Essentially that it is up to the individuals that live here to be informed, to be vocal and to participate in voting, calling representatives, ETC.. You said that "our current situation can be traced back to inaction" and I do agree to a degree with that assessment. The underlying issue here, and it is the true crux of the issue, is that with the way the government has been run, especially since the civil war and it's fraudulent "reconstruction" amendments, the emergency powers act and/or the emergency banking act of 1933, the congress of 1871, the change of public use to public good, and for good measure lets throw in the NFA act of 1934 as well, It has replaced any semblance of us as natural living humans with corporations known as persons. With this devious and treasonous development, they have seemingly taken away our god given rights and have replaced them with privileges.

    The point of the exercise, is to point out, that no matter who we seemingly elect, campaign for, etc.. we are not actually championing rights, rather begging for permission or permits. The government is a casino and the house always wins. The government encourages us to work within the "system" to affect change. This right here is the very problem. I understand that this might seem silly, unreasonable or just plain stupid, but I have found that it is rather correct to the situation.

    For instance, the government used subtle measures to get us to this point. The government will get us wrapped up into conversations about public safety, the children or terrorism. They will speak of reasonable gun control. Reasonable laws, statues and ordinances. They will talk about compromise and left and rights meeting in the middle. It is all an illusion that we have been entranced by. The left right paradigm is false and is designed to get different groups to be at each others throats instead of having all those different groups unite against the one true facilitator of our lost natural rights.

    To say that one man or one group of men have rights that you do not makes you slave. To say that one man or group of men are not bound by the same restrictions as you makes you slave. God grants rights and man grants privelages. We clearly seem to collectively believe that we have gun privelages, not gun rights. The evidence is in the pudding. Look at the long list of gun control measures enacted since 1934. It is staggering, repulsive and clearly an attack on our sovereignty as humans. That line in the sand has moved quite a ways over the decades, Hmmmm ? We have let "reasonable" government PR infect our thinking and our souls. It has never been about gun control, rather, human control.

    In summary, this issue is much deeper, complicated and painful than most would want to admit. But to first understand what the problem is, we have to be able to identify the disease. All this talk about gun control has always been the governments way of making us all look at the symptoms, not the real underlying disease. Finally, to explain further my statement about agreeing with you to a degree. You are absolutely right about the problem, or a large part of the problem being inaction. The inaction I speak of would have nothing to do with voting. The action I speak of would have more to do with actually physically resisting those that would "create" and then enforce such terrible, violent, and immoral rubbish. We are in this situation because we have collectively allowed it and with every loss of natural rights made an excuse, justification or decided to let the fear of violence against us control our lives and choices. Being controlled by fear is no way to live, but I will not say that it is flat out stupid.
     
  4. Chris-the-plumber

    Chris-the-plumber Grumpy, but effective.

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    Since the civil war we have been fed lie upon lie to enact the very tyranny that our Constitution was intended to prevent.
    Well stated.
    Also, you and I are in complete agreement that it was never about gun control or public safety. It has always been about people control.